Sad News & Need to Vent

Hogan
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For the last four years my wife and oldest son have withheld information and lied to relatives, friends and me; and also stolen money from me (included money withdrawn without my permission from our retirement account.)

During this time our son dropped out of college and quit the USA Beach Volleyball Team. He is still unemployed, smoking pot, justifying the pot smoking with his medical marijuana card and also selling it. And my wife continues to support him financially. Heck, why get a job?

Despite their deceitful and dishonest behavior I hung in there for the sake of the family and hoped sooner or later they’d change their behavior. Sadly, the inappropriate behaviors continued.

I invited my wife and son to attend therapy together but they both declined. As Ron “Tater” Salad might say, “You can’t fix stubborn.”

Throughout this ordeal I have been perceived as the bad husband, father and person by relatives and wife’s friends. The relatives included my mom. Fortunately, my mom figured out what was going on and apologized for not confirming the false information she received from my wife and son with me. My mom also stopped giving our son money. Since then our son has not spoken or visited his grandmother.

What is a spouse suppose to do when the other spouse continues with the inappropiate behavior?

I endured and waited long enough and filed for divorce last month.

As hard as it was to break up the marriage, my therapist told me at some point one has to consider his/her health. He was right. For me it was the right and best thing to do. And I have no regrets about my decision.

However, here is what I struggle with and don’t understand. I’m angry and have been told to keep my mouth shut.  I’ve done a great job keeping my composure before and after I filed for divorce.

But why can’t I get pissed off and vent?

I’m also very surprised and shocked at that amount of people who view my wife and son as victims and the compassion they’ve expressed towards them.

Based on my wife and son’s behavior it appears that it’s best to “honor thy son who’s doing drugs and the drug” than “honor thy husband and father.” Although it hurts to be treated this way by them, I feel really sad for my wife and son and the people who continue to support them.

My wife and oldest son’s decisions and behavior have led us to bankruptcy. And now that I’ve filed for divorce I’m left with no money and no health insurance. There is also no money for our youngest son’s college education. So he has suffered too. And yep, I’m still the bad guy.

Although my situation sucks, I’m doing my best to turn it into lemonade but it doesn’t taste very good and has been hard to swallow.

I have no regrets about the life I’ve had with my wife. It was a great run but it’s sad that forces beyond my control ended a twenty-one year marriage. Yeah, it hurts but I must move on and prepare myself for a new life as a divorced man.

The good news is that I’ve been much happier since I separated from my wife and my future looks bright.

Thanks to all the dads in this group who provided me with an open ear and support.

Keep On Daddying




SAHD01
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I joined this site kind of

I joined this site kind of late in the day for this, but allow me to say that you should not be portrayed as the bad guy. I salute you. It sounds to me like you did everything you could to save your marriage and relationship with your son, but before long, it stops being CPR, and becomes necrophilia (pardon the expression). Hopefully, you have since gotten your life back together, and moved on.

 

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hotsaucejon
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Told to keep your mouth

Told to keep your mouth shut? By whom?

I say scream it from the housetops and if they don't like it, bump'em. Let them come and stop you. It's a free country. Unless you're under some kind of legal gag order I say give it to them.



StayAtHomeTripletDad
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Praying for you and yours

 

 

Hogan,

First, I want to thank you for all you do for us Dads.  Your efforts are much appreciated!

Secondly, there is no way that I or anyone else can fully know your situation and thus, any advice you get (solicited or not) is from a very naive perspective, mine included.  Anyone that tells you otherwise is suffering from an ID-10-T error:)  lol

All that being said, here is my $.02 worth.  Yes, you still need to focus some of your energy towards your soon to be ex and your oldest son but how much is up to you.  Try to work through the stages of grief, anger being a BIG one. If you are a believer I suggest "having it out" with God.  Usually when I am angry I am angry with him.  For some reason verbalizing everything takes a weight off my shoulders.  As for your oldest son and his mother, I propose that no good can come from "venting" to them or in any public way.  One on one with trusted friends is another story.  I would also suggest writing down what you would say to each of them, then lock it away and password protect it.  That way you get it out but without the negative results.

As far as people looking at you as the "Bad Guy," that sucks!  I bet some, if not most, are Christians.  Unfortunately the Bible is not very caring when it comes to our "feelings" in this life.  Just look at Hosea and Homer, NOT pretty.  That being said God loves divorced people and as Christians we are all called to love everyone.  Please do not feel condemned.  Short story, free will is a bitch.

Shorter story.... try to focus on yourself, your other son, work on forgiveness, and move forward with grace.  I will continue to pray for all of you.

Don't fall down,

Al P.

PS  Lemonade is still tart, I say use them in a sweet tea vodka and lemonade drink:)  lol

 

 



ZMan
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Joined: 2012-02-26
Dad Points: 20
Funny how the responsible party can be views and tagged as bad

This is horrible; and yes you have every right to be pissed; mad, to view it as the hell with it. You know going through divorce I found a therapist luckily who guess what!!!! Has been going through one himself for 10 years; kid you not 10 years!!!. His reply to me is you have every right to be mad, pissed call it what you want so long as you do not perform actions to jeopardize your future or cause you problems. I will say in my opinion children between ages 14 and 20 are selfish and will always lean towards their own self satisfaction. My 20yr old just woke up to that this year, after 18 months in the military and many more years to go at his decision. There is no magic words here; it sucks, sounds like you are a good dad and individual, you are just you are surrounded by those who don't appreciate responsibility and your qualities; they will!! Give it time; they will!!. You can't sacrifice yourself for those who don't care, appreciate or understand what you offer. It sucks; it is bad and will get worse for awhile, hang in there don't do anything that will make your life more complicated. This will get hard and costly, emotionally and monetarily; push through. I have been in your position; not exactly but none the less and my motto used to be there is enough for everybody; time, money, home, away etc.... It's just to be enough for everybody you can't have anybody be the all consumer, everybody has to accept and say "Hey I have a pretty good life, I get 80%, 90% of not what I need; but even what I want" and that little slice left over is unselfishness, but not if you are around those that can't share for you to want to be healthy, happy and all together with them, then you can't live. Stress, high blood pressure etc.. On top of age and keeping on top of your responsibilities like your Job, and House and Bills won't be possible. It's hard, hang in there; I swear hang in there!!! and don't give up fire; or let loose of anybody who tells you to keep quiet, or give in, I don't care if they are relatives, lawyers, therapist whoever fire those devoid of your interest, those who can't help you through this. Keep yourself busy, work a little more, watch 1 or 2 more movies a week; catch a concert, casually date, hang with friends; stay busy makes time pass.



Hogan
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Joined: 2008-04-21
Dad Points: 778
Thanks Guys!!

Hogan Hilling, Daddyshome, Inc. Board Member At-Large & Media Relations and Scholarship Chairperson

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Sorry for the late reply.  Been busy going through a divorce. J), @ Liam.  No, it’s not a free country anymore. J Sadly, I must resist the temptation to voice how pissed off I am because what I say may be used against me.  So far, the tactic has worked well for me. It’s also helped me stay focused on what I need to do to stay healthy and be productive.  Bottom line is that the truth will all come out eventually.   Here is an update: I have moved on.  I emotionally divorced my self from my ex-wife.  Notice the reference to ex. I joined a Divorce Recovery Group.  The people have been phenomenal and the whole program has been a huge benefit for me.  Several people have noticed that I’m a lot happier now.  And I am.  I’m also so relieved to not have to deal with all the nonsense and bullshit.   I don’t perceive myself as the bad guy.  I know I did all the right things.  As my therapist said, “I have two choices.  One is to go down with a sinking ship.  Or two save yourself.”  I chose to save myself. I’m thankful for the emotional and financial support from my mother.  She’s been awesome! I do have my ups and downs.  But each time I’m down, I manage to pick myself up again. I’m looking forward to my new life.  Lots of good stuff going on.   Thanks for all the support. KOD, Hogan



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