Stay at Home Dads project

hbrookha
Posts: 3
Joined: 2007-12-04
Dad Points: 7

Hi, my name is Heather and I'm an undergraduate student at Rutgers University. I'm doing a project on Stay at Home Dads for my Women's and Gender Studies class and I was hoping to get some opinions straight from the source.

What made you decide to become a SAHD?
Had you ever thought much about being a SAHD prior to actually making the decision?
What was your previous employment to becoming a SAHD?
How has this experience changed your life? Would you recommend this lifestyle to other men?
Do you think that men can be just as good parents, if not better parents, than women?

anything else that you would like to add would be great as well, I'd love to hear your personal stories!




dayv27
dayv27's picture
Posts: 355
Joined: 2006-11-03
Dad Points: 632
Oh yeah, I get to be a lab rat again!!!!

What made you decide to become a SAHD?
My wife made more than I did and I didn't want to send my son to day care so we figured it would make sense for me to stay home and watch the boy.

Had you ever thought much about being a SAHD prior to actually making the decision?
I went to the 8th annual at-home dad's convention 4 months before my son was born to see what I was getting myself into. I would say that involved some thought.

What was your previous employment to becoming a SAHD?
Zamboni Driver. Seriously, I was. And I worked security at a middle school.

How has this experience changed your life?
I have a son who has been raised and molded the way I want him to be, not the way someone who is being paid X number of dollars an hour raised him. I have been there for all of the important moments, first steps, first words, etc...

Would you recommend this lifestyle to other men?
I do daily. www.athomedadconvention.com

Do you think that men can be just as good parents, if not better parents, than women?
I wouldn't say better parents for either sex, we parent differently. I have strong suits in parenting that my wife doesn't, and she scores higher in patience than I do. It's a style thing.

anything else that you would like to add would be great as well, I'd love to hear your personal stories!
My wife has given me a great opportunity. I am grateful that I have been able to be with my son his whole life, see him growing in front of me, and despite the days I am in the doorway when my wife comes home from work telling her what "her son" has done that day, I wouldn't trade the opportunity that I have been given.

Dayv

www.athomedadconvention.com



KevH
Posts: 365
Joined: 2006-11-16
Dad Points: 540
Can't we just put this in a FAQ?

It seems like we get a questionnaire every week or so.

What made you decide to become a SAHD?
My wife had a more stable job than I did, we didn't want to send our son to day care and I was better at the day to day running of the house anyway

Had you ever thought much about being a SAHD prior to actually making the decision?
Yes, we made plans for me to quit my job before my son was born

What was your previous employment to becoming a SAHD?
Computer tech support and repair

How has this experience changed your life?
It has given me the chance to see the world outside of a 9-5 job but it has also limited my chances of getting a 9-5 job ever again

Would you recommend this lifestyle to other men?
Only if they can truly accept the lifestyle change, it's mentally tough learning to deal with your new job environment.

Do you think that men can be just as good parents, if not better parents, than women?
This seems like a loaded question, I'm not going to say anything except, "Google Britney Spears"

anything else that you would like to add would be great as well, I'd love to hear your personal stories!
I'm just a dad in a family that didn't outsource parenting

I'm Not a Slacker



hbrookha
Posts: 3
Joined: 2007-12-04
Dad Points: 7
to Dayv and KevH-

wow, thank you for your responses!
Dayv- What was the most valuable information you learned at the convention that prepared you to be a SAHD?
KevH- Would you ever want to return to a 9-5 job?



opokus
Posts: 13
Joined: 2007-11-27
Dad Points: 21
As preamble to these answers

As preamble to these answers I'd like you to know that Iam a pending dad. My wife and I aren't pregnant yet but have planned for a child in '08. In this planning I became a stay at home dad.

What made you decide to become a SAHD?
Planning for a child. Between the wife and I, I have the most at home experience and it was agreed I would have the highest success staying at home.

Had you ever thought much about being a SAHD prior to actually making the decision?
Yes. My father was rarely home until I was 8 then he left and rarely became never. I often considered finding a way to ALWAYS be home for the kids. (now we are getting personal)

What was your previous employment to becoming a SAHD?
Engineer for a day job. Other businesses by night.

How has this experience changed your life? Would you recommend this lifestyle to other men?
I'll have to let you know. Thus far it's an adjustment not being in the office, but this was anticipated, hence why I started staying home before it was absolutely necessary.

Do you think that men can be just as good parents, if not better parents, than women?
Men CAN be great parents. Depends on the man and the children. Children have differing personalities that may or may not match those of the dad. Gender of the child may also be a factor.

Hope all that helped.

Sam Opoku
Work At Home United
www.defyexpectations.com/
www.defyexpectations.com/trulysafe.html



dayv27
dayv27's picture
Posts: 355
Joined: 2006-11-03
Dad Points: 632
valuable information

The most valuable thing I learned was that I'm not alone out there. There are millions of other dads out there who are the primary care givers for thier children, and that if they can do it, so can I. If I need some advice, there are some great guys to contact for suggestions.

Dayv

www.athomedadconvention.com



JPhillip
JPhillip's picture
Posts: 656
Joined: 2006-11-17
Dad Points: 946
Research & Friendly Advice

See this link for a research/advice connection you might want to make: http://www.athomedad.org/node/244 He is a great guy.

Also, see http://www.athomedad.org/node/1721 for another possible research/advice contact. Another nice guy.



JPhillip
JPhillip's picture
Posts: 656
Joined: 2006-11-17
Dad Points: 946
What made you decide to

What made you decide to become a SAHD? WE DID NOT WANT TO PUT OUR CHILD IN DAYCARE. WIFE WAS OFFERED A LOT OF MONEY FOR US TO MOVE.
Had you ever thought much about being a SAHD prior to actually making the decision? NOT MUCH, BUT I HAD NEVER RULED IT OUT. WE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MY WIFE.
What was your previous employment to becoming a SAHD? ATTORNEY
How has this experience changed your life? IT MAKES ME APPRECIATE LIFE MORE. I TRADED IN A LOT OF BAD JOB STRESS FOR SOME TOLERABLE CHILD STRESS. IT IS EXTREMELY LIBERATING FROM THE SOCIETAL PRESSURES MOST MEN GROW UP WITH.
Would you recommend this lifestyle to other men? YES, BUT NOT WITHOUT CAREFUL CONSIDERATION. IT CHANGES YOUR LIFE AND CAREER FOREVER.
Do you think that men can be just as good parents, if not better parents, than women? YES THEY CAN. BUT, IT IS INDIVIDUAL-SPECIFIC, NOT GENDER-SPECIFIC.

anything else that you would like to add would be great as well, I'd love to hear your personal stories! CLICK ON MY CONTACT BUTTON IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME A FOLLOW-UP EMAIL.



trophyhusband
Posts: 170
Joined: 2006-11-27
Dad Points: 322
Re: project

What made you decide to become a SAHD?

Me, unfinished PhD, her, MBA. Forecast that one out, you know who's career is going to be the family economic engine. Personality wise, I'm better suited to being the at-home parent, and she is better suited to being a blackberry addict...although we didn't know that quite so clearly 10 years ago, we had a pretty good sense of it.

Had you ever thought much about being a SAHD prior to actually making the decision?

Loads! I didn't really think about it before getting together with my eventual spouse, but we talked about it for many years before we lived it. (together: 18 years; married 13 years; kids, 8 years)

What was your previous employment to becoming a SAHD?

That's "at-home Dad" to you, honey. :-) There is nothing "stay" about the job...as the miles on my vehicle will tell you (NOT a mini-van, thank you very much -- don't flame me guys, ok, I respect your vehicle choice...). Unfortunately, the moniker is too firmly rooted in the language...

Prior employment in approximate reverse order: grad student, barista before anyone knew what a "barista" was, retail store management, adventure travel management, adventure travel guide, bike mechanic, inveterate traveler...a pretty standard post-college, late 80's early 90's "there is no economy" type resume.

How has this experience changed your life? Would you recommend this lifestyle to other men?

Uh, any experience changes your life...but I do feel strongly that I am more satisfied with my life and generally fulfilled as an at-home Dad than I would have been as either an academic or some sort of desk-jockey. Perhaps more importantly, it has changed my wife's experience...she wouldn't have the career she has if I weren't at home being, uh, the wife! She never has to leave work to get sick kids from school, can jump on a plane with essentially no notice to go to critical meetings and not have any concerns about who the kids are with, never has to spend time "running the home", etc. Recommend it? ABSOLUTELY! But, as with any career choice, it's gotta fit... It isn't for everybody (but then no job is...including many women who probably shouldn't be at-home Moms...but that's another story rooted in cultural bias...)

Do you think that men can be just as good parents, if not better parents, than women?

Oh, no offense, this is a really REALLY stupid question for a number of reasons. If we didn't think we could do at least close to an equal job, can you imagine the cognitive dissonance we'd have? Heather, you've grown up in a world that is so post-feminist that post-femism happened, uh, while you were a toddler! (assuming you are college age...forgive me if I make incorrect assumptions.) This should be part of the cultural fabric of who you are...your foremothers of the 60's and 70's knocked the opposite question on it's ass (can women do men's work)...and the women of the 80's and 90's k.o.'d it completely...the women of this millenium shouldn't even be asking about jobs and gender suitability...there is no job that favors one gender, there are only biased cultural expectations that encode preferred gender onto a job. Simply put, sexism can go both ways...and that question is blatently sexist.

Hell yes, we do just as good a job as women...equally good to the at-home Moms who are good at it, and better than the many at-home Moms who are tortured by the post-post femist culture that makes them feel unfulfilled because they don't "work" and are consequently unhappy in their role as primary parent. This is not to say there aren't bad or unhappy at-home Dads...there are, and some of the unhappy ones can be found on this site. However, the issue is not that they are men, but rather that "primary parent" just isn't the right job for them. Men and women don't succeed as at-home parents (or lawyers, or garbage collectors, or i-bankers, or nurses, or, or, or...) because of their gender...they succeed because they "fit" their role well.

For some concrete answers about men's parenting, see Kyle Pruett's research (Yale)....male primary parent outcomes are equal to if not slightly better than women's.

Other details...uh, can you be more specific?

Please be sure to post your paper for us...we do get hit fairly regularly with these sorts of requests and it does encourage us to keep answering if we see that something of interest is in fact coming out of it....

Hey, guys, I think this thread is becoming the FAQ...

- Andy

____________________________________
KCDADs: www.groups.yahoo.com/group/kcdad/

13th Annual At-Home Dads' Convention: www.athomedadconvention.com



trophyhusband
Posts: 170
Joined: 2006-11-27
Dad Points: 322
Re: project

What made you decide to become a SAHD?

Me, unfinished PhD, her, MBA. Forecast that one out, you know who's career is going to be the family economic engine. Personality wise, I'm better suited to being the at-home parent, and she is better suited to being a blackberry addict...although we didn't know that quite so clearly 10 years ago, we had a pretty good sense of it.

Had you ever thought much about being a SAHD prior to actually making the decision?

Loads! I didn't really think about it before getting together with my eventual spouse, but we talked about it for many years before we lived it. (together: 18 years; married 13 years; kids, 8 years)

What was your previous employment to becoming a SAHD?

That's "at-home Dad" to you, honey. :-) There is nothing "stay" about the job...as the miles on my vehicle will tell you (NOT a mini-van, thank you very much -- don't flame me guys, ok, I respect your vehicle choice...). Unfortunately, the moniker is too firmly rooted in the language...

Prior employment in approximate reverse order: grad student, barista before anyone knew what a "barista" was, retail store management, adventure travel management, adventure travel guide, bike mechanic, inveterate traveler...a pretty standard post-college, late 80's early 90's "there is no economy" type resume.

How has this experience changed your life? Would you recommend this lifestyle to other men?

Uh, any experience changes your life...but I do feel strongly that I am more satisfied with my life and generally fulfilled as an at-home Dad than I would have been as either an academic or some sort of desk-jockey. Perhaps more importantly, it has changed my wife's experience...she wouldn't have the career she has if I weren't at home being, uh, the wife! She never has to leave work to get sick kids from school, can jump on a plane with essentially no notice to go to critical meetings and not have any concerns about who the kids are with, never has to spend time "running the home", etc. Recommend it? ABSOLUTELY! But, as with any career choice, it's gotta fit... It isn't for everybody (but then no job is...including many women who probably shouldn't be at-home Moms...but that's another story rooted in cultural bias...)

Do you think that men can be just as good parents, if not better parents, than women?

Oh, no offense, this is a really REALLY stupid question for a number of reasons. If we didn't think we could do at least close to an equal job, can you imagine the cognitive dissonance we'd have? Heather, you've grown up in a world that is so post-feminist that post-femism happened, uh, while you were a toddler! (assuming you are college age...forgive me if I make incorrect assumptions.) This should be part of the cultural fabric of who you are...your foremothers of the 60's and 70's knocked the opposite question on it's ass (can women do men's work)...and the women of the 80's and 90's k.o.'d it completely...the women of this millenium shouldn't even be asking about jobs and gender suitability...there is no job that favors one gender, there are only biased cultural expectations that encode preferred gender onto a job. Simply put, sexism can go both ways...and that question is blatently sexist.

Hell yes, we do just as good a job as women...equally good to the at-home Moms who are good at it, and better than the many at-home Moms who are tortured by the post-post femist culture that makes them feel unfulfilled because they don't "work" and are consequently unhappy in their role as primary parent. This is not to say there aren't bad or unhappy at-home Dads...there are, and some of the unhappy ones can be found on this site. However, the issue is not that they are men, but rather that "primary parent" just isn't the right job for them. Men and women don't succeed as at-home parents (or lawyers, or garbage collectors, or i-bankers, or nurses, or, or, or...) because of their gender...they succeed because they "fit" their role well.

For some concrete answers about men's parenting, see Kyle Pruett's research (Yale)....male primary parent outcomes are equal to if not slightly better than women's.

Other details...uh, can you be more specific?

Please be sure to post your paper for us...we do get hit fairly regularly with these sorts of requests and it does encourage us to keep answering if we see that something of interest is in fact coming out of it....

Hey, guys, I think this thread is becoming the FAQ...

- Andy

____________________________________
KCDADs: www.groups.yahoo.com/group/kcdad/

13th Annual At-Home Dads' Convention: www.athomedadconvention.com



trophyhusband
Posts: 170
Joined: 2006-11-27
Dad Points: 322
Sorry - double post, "internal server error"

Sorry for the double post folks...I got an "internal server error", so went back a page and hit post again...looks like the server wasn't in error!

- Andy

____________________________________
KCDADs: www.groups.yahoo.com/group/kcdad/

13th Annual At-Home Dads' Convention: www.athomedadconvention.com



hbrookha
Posts: 3
Joined: 2007-12-04
Dad Points: 7
responses

thank you for the great responses everyone!

JPhillip- thanks for the links
trophyhusband- yeah, I really should not have included the last question... I was trying to elicit responses that talked about the pride attached to being a father and being the one who gets to raise the children, but I see that those answers came out anyway! my apologies



JonMcP
JonMcP's picture
Posts: 303
Joined: 2007-01-03
Dad Points: 460
Answers

What the heck- I've not answered one of these surveys yet so I'll take a go at it.

What made you decide to become a SAHD?
My daughter was born with a health condition that we felt would be better able to be managed with one of us staying home. Two main factors came into play:
1) Wife made more money
2) My personality is better suited for managing our home (I already did most of the household chores)

Had you ever thought much about being a SAHD prior to actually making the decision?
My boss's husband at my old job was an At Home Dad, so it wasn't a foreign concept, but I really didn't think I liked kids well enough to stay home with one. So I guess my answer is no.

What was your previous employment to becoming a SAHD?
I was a vice president/operations manager at a national financial institution

How has this experience changed your life? Would you recommend this lifestyle to other men?
To put it bluntly, I was an a**hole before I became an at home parent. I was always stressed and got a lot of my identity through my job and position. While we were DINKS (dual income no kids) what I drove, what I wore and where I lived was extremely important to me.

My life has made a 180 degree turn and I like myself, and my life much more now than before. Now I've got a closet full of Brooks Brothers shirts that haven't been worn since December 31, 2006 and sold the German car for a Japanese hybrid that could be afforded on one income.

Right now (almost 12 months into it) I can't imagine going back into corporate America. In fact, I know that I won't.... when my daughter reaches school age I believe I'll either volunteer or work part time at a health food store or something.

Do you think that men can be just as good parents, if not better parents, than women? N/A



AMR
AMR's picture
Posts: 104
Joined: 2007-11-06
Dad Points: 127
Answers

Ok, I'll answer my first survey as well. Good luck on your project.

What made you decide to become a SAHD? Unlike others here, we did utilize a wonderful childcare facility for our son and daughter until this fall. Our son, now four, still attends the same preK program -- he likes it, is adjusted and, frankly, is doing really well. We never looked at it as "outsourcing parenting" or anything like that. We were providing for our children both for today and tomorrow and they both were happy. In short, I had no problem w/ how we were raising our children before we decided to have me stay home.

Instead, the stress of two parents working was just killing us, the adults! I know my kids are happier now, don't get me wrong, but they were never unhappy to begin with. My wife and I, however, were exhausted all the time. My work required approximately six-seven weeks of travel. Her job really isn't that flexible (it's hard for her to leave on a moment's notice). We knew it would be much easier on all involved if one of us stayed home fulltime. I cannot quantify the reduction in stress that has taken place since I have been staying home. W/ school and practices, w/ traffic and groceries and laundry, with coughs and fevers . . . being a parent for a couple hours a day during the week and then fulltime on the weekend is just really, really hard. After four years, we were done. We couldn't continue like that. My wife makes a lot more money than I made, so here I am.

Had you ever thought much about being a SAHD prior to actually making the decision? Only b/c my wife has always outearned me by a great deal. We knew that should we ever decide to go down this road it would be on me to do so. I was a teacher in a previous life and do enjoy working with children -- what better children to teach than your own? So, yes, I thought about it.

What was your previous employment to becoming a SAHD? Associate Director of Undergraduate Admissions at my alma mater (a terrific school!). I liked my job a great deal and could have worked there for the rest of my life.

How has this experience changed your life? I'm but one month in, actually, so I'm not sure I can answer this in a meaningful way. I am taking a lot of pride in the work I do in this new life -- I want the house to be clean, the meals to be good, the laundry folded and the shopping done. Most importantly, I want to play and read and learn with my children and at the same time give my wife the opportunity to do the same when she is home. I have embraced these tasks and this life . . . so far, so good.

Would you recommend this lifestyle to other men? Absolutely. If you want a parent to stay home, I'm not sure us guys will have a choice! Trust me, I know -- women have taken over almost all of the top spots in our nation's high schools, colleges and graduate/professional schools. But the job itself is rewarding. The issues I have been facing thus far (including loneliness/lack of adult interaction) are no different than those a stay-at-home mom faces (except for the fact that there are so many other stay-at-home moms out there!). What's good/bad for women can be good/bad for us as well!

Do you think that men can be just as good parents, if not better parents, than women? No. My wife and I decided to sacrifice the well-being of our children for the cash (I keed, I keed!). I read your follow-up post and know you meant no harm here!

Click my name for a link to my blog for some stories if you'd like. Again, best of luck to you on your project.



dkremers_1965
dkremers_1965's picture
Posts: 266
Joined: 2007-09-28
Dad Points: 470
Here are my feelings on

Here are my feelings on being a SAHD (and I don't care if you call me a SAHD or a AHD -- same thing in my book). Being a SAHD has definately given me a much better appreciation for what my mother went through as she stayed home with my brother, sister, and me.

What made you decide to become a SAHD?

My answer to this one is different than most here. I was the one with the higher salary. I made about $10,000 more a year than my wife did but was dealing with some things at work that just shouldn't have been happening. I also was driving way to far everyday just to get to and from my job. These 2 things were the main reason I ended up staying home. We also didn't have the issue of the kids in daycare. The daycare we were using was incredible. The people who worked there were awesome and absolutely loved our kids! Yes, it is better for them to be here with me than at the daycare, but we had such an awesome daycare that this didn't really even enter into the decision.

Had you ever thought much about being a SAHD prior to actually making the decision?

Although I always was home with the kids during the summer months, we were really planning on the wife being home. We had only joked about me being the one to stay home.

What was your previous employment to becoming a SAHD?

I was an elementary school teacher for about 10 years.

How has this experience changed your life? Would you recommend this lifestyle to other men?

I would definitely recommend it to any guy that can deal with it. It can be lonely at times but the benefits and closeness you experience with your kids far outweigh the rest.

Do you think that men can be just as good parents, if not better parents, than women?

I think the sex of the parent doesn't matter as far as who is the better parent. My wife tends to be more patient with the kids than I am so in that aspect she is a better parent. I do better setting the limits and enforcing the rules than she does so they don't try to get away with as much with me as they do with her. We end up complimenting each others parenting styles.

Anything else that you would like to add would be great as well, I'd love to hear your personal stories!

All I can say here is that I wouldn't trade the time that I've had with the kids here at home for anything. Yes, sometimes it's lonely. Yes, sometimes society looks at you as weird for doing what you are doing. Yes, sometimes the wife resents that fact that you are home instead of her. But all that is minor to what you gain being home with them. You find ways to make other male friends. You learn to ignore the ignorant who think you are weird. You sympathize with your wife and know that she is really deep down glad that someone is home. But the time you have with your children, priceless!

Check out my ramblings on life at http://www.sahdguy.blogspot.com/



trophyhusband
Posts: 170
Joined: 2006-11-27
Dad Points: 322
Apologies accepted!

Heather: apologies accepted...I fully assumed the question was asked innocently and didn't mean any ill. I hope the tone of my response was sufficiently light for you (and others...) to see that I was basically just giving you gas... I sometimes forget that not all the participants here (I'm psyched about how many new ones there are!) aren't yet familiar with my sometimes caustic humor...

Your ongoing dialog with us is great...something that other researchers have frequently failed to do.

- Andy

____________________________________
KCDADs: www.groups.yahoo.com/group/kcdad/

13th Annual At-Home Dads' Convention: www.athomedadconvention.com



Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.