Tax Rebate

KevH
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Tax Rebate

This morning President Bush said each one of us would get a $1200.00 tax rebate. It was previously slated to be $1400.00, but they dropped it to a $1200.00 tax rebate because of various budget problems.

Now, if we spend that money at Wal-Mart, all the money will go to China , if we spend it on computers, most of the money will go to Korea or India . If we spend it on gasoline it will all go to the Arabs ....and none of these scenarios will help the American economy.

We need to keep that money here in America .....so
the only way to keep that money here at home is to drink beer, gamble, or spend it on prostitution. Currently it seems that these are the only businesses still left in the U.S.




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It was always $1200 per couple

And that's only if you and your spouse earn less than $172,000. You get an additional $300 per qualifying child.

You spend it on beer and the money goes to Canada, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia or any of the other countries that we import oil from by virtue of the fact it had to be delivered by a truck to the store that runs on gas. You spend it on a hooker and she gives it to her pimp and he buys things like Plasma TVs made in China, Japan, Korea, or Mexico. You gamble and the money lines the pocket of the foreign investors that are so heavily vested in the gaming industry in this country.

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.

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Mine is going to...

pay off my credit debt. I racked up a lot of charges on plasma TVs and hookers last year.



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here's a scary fact...

Not only are we screwed with what we can do with our "rebate", the US is borrowing money from China to extend us this "stimulus package". I say what a ripoff to the middle and lower classes, yet again. I might as well spend it on hookers and a plasma TV, but alas, my wife would certainly cut my nuts off. Maybe it's going under the mattress since I'm having a hard time trusting the banking industry these days...

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Low Return, but...

Long term, a good thing you can do is buy savings bonds with it. Then you put yourself in the shoes of the lender, with the U.S. as the borrower. As the government continues to go in the hole, you will be in a better and better relative economic position.

Short term, just for your own selfish purposes, you should pay off some of your highest interest debt. This will save you money every month going forward. Don't buy anything with the money.



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Savings Bonds

aregoing to be worth nothing as they continue to lower the interest rate. And you have to wait 30 years....not that I wont be here when Im sixty three, but I think paying off debt is much better.

Paddyrat what's the source on the China info? Im no pro-govt person but hadn't heard that...and I figured the liberal bloggers would be all over this one.

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And I Quote...

Quote:
I might as well spend it on hookers and a plasma TV,

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my wife would certainly cut my nuts off

Like TickTock, I spent mine last year on these items, but I paid cash, haah! Hope the wife don't see this or... ahhh, ahhh, no, no, please... KA CHOW!
In all seriousness, we will be going wall to wall in my kitchen/family room with hardwood flooring now my son is over the crash, splat, cry phase of learning to walk/run plus his Popcicle madness we had two years ago that forever gave the family room a 60's tie dye look.
I hope my Surround Sound still surrounds with the new floor!
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bonds are good

bonds are good and you do not have to wait 30 years anymore. I think it is 5 years now because they act more like a CD with a floating low interest rate, i think mine are at 3.67. Best bet is like Jphilip said pay off high interest debt or put it into Roth IRA and just pay the tax back to the Gov't now.
I think the China information I heard was that they were a large buyer of T Bills. Not sure though.
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shuaevan

Paying off high interest debt should be your first priority. Then, and only then, should you consider bonds. You are right that the interest rate on bonds can be quite low for certain ones. There is a much more complex economic argument that can be made for holding bonds issued by the government. I won't dare try to go into that here. I want everyone to stay awake so that they can watch their kids.



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Debt too

Most of our acctual tax return will be going to paying off what little debt we have left over from last year. As far as the "insetive" goes...well...some will be going to fix up our digs and some will be going into savings.

And it's so not ture that money spet at Wall-Mart is going to China! Firts it goes to the high powered lobbyits that work for Wall-Mart to keep minumum wage artifcialy low etc, then it will hit the pipe line to a Comunist country to feed their coffers.

(I am aware that smacks of polotics. I'm trying guys)

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And, my friend...

Some of it will go to pay minimum wages, so that the people working for minimum wage can try to pay their bills and put food on their tables.



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Oh No

Oh no I know that too.
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paddyrat
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it doesn't grow on trees...

From the mouth of my Congressman, the Honorable David Scott. I will do some checking on the exact circumstances, but yes, part is the Chinese investment in T-bills. I'll do some research. As for me, we are virtually debt free (just the house, and about 700 bucks in various credit cards. Don't hate me, but it has taken a lot of work/sacrifice for the past 5-6 years to make that happen) and more than likely our "stimulus" will go where it should and into more remodeling of our house. Trying for #2 and needing another room for a new kid takes precedence. My big screen hookers will have to wait...

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I'm investing

in 1200 lotttery tickets. Gotta support the public school system.

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Lottery Tks!

Egad man you are on to something I should have thought of that.

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PittCaleb
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pre-refund?

Even thought I got an official looking letter last week in the mail (at a cost of $40 million I believe), I will not be getting this rebate check. (income threshold)

But my question is this - isn't this just a pre-refund on your 2008 taxes? i.e. it's your money you're getting and spending!

Unless I am mistaken, and I was once before, the last time they did this, you had to claim it on your taxes at the end of the year against your taxes. i.e. if you owe $10,000 in taxes and got the $600 (at the time) rebate, you actually owed $10,600 back. If you had $11,000 withheld, you got an end-of-year refund of $400 rather than the $1,000 you would have. And if you normall owe about $1,000, you would then owe $1,600.

I swear this is what happened last time and with the raw numbers higher (300/600 last time, 600/1200 this time) unless people think about how this is going to play our next April, they're going to be scrambling to find that extra grand to pay the Feds.

I think this is the case, can someone confirm or better explain? And if it is, I'm not sad at not getting it, 'cause it's going back there anyway...

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No penalty

From everything I've read, there will be no penalty for this. Of course it's the government, so everything is subject to change.

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JPhillip
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Note

If it is taxable income, it would not be $1200 in taxes at the end of the year. It would be whatever your tax rate is, applied to the $1200 you received. A good rule of thumb is 1/3. So, maybe $400 in additional taxes, if it turns out that it is taxable.

Also, PittCaleb, you may think you are not going to get anything, but there is a "sliding scale" that reduces the amount of the payment if you are over the threshold. It may be that you get a little something, if not the full amount.



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Yup... sliding scale...

Of course when we found out about the "big break" wifey promised it was going to be my mad money.

...then we found out we are only getting $604.00



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