Ads that piss me off...

phaze-3
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******RANT WARNING*****

I'm not talking about the obvious ads, with some doofus husband who can't figure out how to vacum. Those are too blatant and easily ignored. I'm talking about the subtle ones you can read into, rightly or wrongly, with interpretations that probably didn't occur to the ad guys.

My most recent hate-fest was inspired by American Airlines. The commercial with the daughter talking to dad on the phone -- "Where are you this time, Daddy." "I'm in London, sweetie." and so on. Something in that girl's voice hits me like an umbrella in the eye. It's a subtle sadness. The sub-dialog should really be "When are you coming home, Daddy? Are you going to miss my ballet recital again? When will you read me a bedtime story in person instead of over the phone?" To which the dad replies, "But snookums, if Daddy doesn't keep globe-trotting for Haliburton, we'd have to move into a house with less than 10,000 square feet and fire the cleaning lady." The daughter does get a consolation prize at the end of the commercial, though. She gets to go on a business trip with dad. Then I yell at the TV.

YOU F*CKING RETARD! WHO THE F*CK DOES THAT TO A KID?

Oh, I forgot, a few million distant, distracted, high-income dads DO exactly that. Now that I think of it, I seem to remember a hotel commercial in which the mom or dad did actually read a bedtime story over the phone.

Society is doomed, you know. Our own kids will be fine, of course, but the rest -- definitely doomed...

I feel better now, thanks.




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Phaze, I know where you're

Phaze,
I know where you're coming from. We have friends who've made those types of choices, and sometimes it's challenging wondering if only we had made the same choices. Maybe we'd have a bigger house, or wouldn't have to worry about how we're gonna save for college. A few weeks back we were invited to stay at a friend of a friend's "modest" second home that overlooks Lake Michigan. Let me just say that "modest" home was of a sort most people would die for, and it was modest only in the sense that surrounding it were even more glitzy, multi-million mansions owned by the captains of industry in my neck of the woods.

I guess I try to avoid judging other people's choices. In the end, everyone's trying to do what they think is best for their family. However, it would be great to see a commercial that promoted our "counter-cultural" values as well. I wonder what corporation would find that message worthy?



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That was hysterical for a

That was hysterical for a rant. I got a great chuckle from it. However I completly agree with it.



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I'm gonna do it, I swear....

I'm gonna build a blog or a forum just for SAHD bitch sessions -- the more cuss-filed, the better. Come and say everything you can't say around the wife and kids. Moms have their own version of this already, called, I think, everyday conversation. I just have to find a good URL -- rantingdad.com? angrydad.com? Hmmmmmmm.....



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Do we need a forum for that?

Do we need a "ranting and venting" forum? :-)



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No, we don't need a forum for that, please!

Or do we?

Leave it to the bloggers of the world. Personally, I'd rather come to this site for something useful.

Seriously folks, don't like it, change the channel or turn your TV off and don't fly American.

Sometimes I gotta wonder; How does an ad piss one off so much? Could there be something else wrong in their life that they have to be so cynical and judgemental about a ficticious businessman in a TV commercial? (who supposedly works for Helliburton and owns a 10K sq. ft home- things that they made up in their own head)

I mean, no offense to anyone, just wondering...

So, my vote would be no to ranting or venting forums. But, people will rant or vent whenever or where ever they want, right? So, by giving them a forum, we'd be saying, "Dude, please, go over there and be pissed".

Maybe a forum for it isn't such a bad idea. I'd prefer they just do it on their own blog and save the space here for some friendlier and useful chat.

But that's just my opinion, I could be totally wrong.



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rant on!

I think that rants have a place in the forums. It's important that we don't attempt to persuade posters to edit their content, as this is a public forum that ought to include a variety of emotions, opinions, friendly debate, and information. We all can't agree about everything, so it's important that when we disagree we don't make it personal- such as questioning what's wrong with someone's life that they need to vent about a commercial.

The idea of changing the channel or ignoring the source of frustration goes both ways.



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rant on, rant off

Colin, I wasn't making it personal towards any one person. Just wondering what would make a person so bloody pissed about a freakin TV commercial. I mean, it was just a TV commercial. I am allowed to say that, right?

I am sorry you've misunderstood what you read in my post. Not what's wrong with their lives, but rather in their lives that makes them cynical like that.

And, if you missed the last line of my post, it read, and I quote, "But that's just my opinion, I could be totally wrong."

I guess I was totally wrong. Thanks for correcting me!

we still friends?



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A Fraction Wrong

Who am I to talk?

I just want to keep things fair. I've had a few online (and in person) rants myself, and I know that the tone of online rants are sometimes misread. Plus, I've noticed that this discussion board is so new (limited amount of members) that directly challenging an individual's post or an individual's thread can be intimidating. Especially when there aren't official mods to police the forums, which I don't think are needed yet anyway. Everyone has really been fair and polite overall.

Brian's a cool guy, and has always been friendly to me. And of course, I didn't mean to attack him personally, just as he didn't mean to offend in his original post. I'm not on the offensive at all. No worries.

And you aren't completely wrong either. Just sort of wrong? Maybe one third wrong? I'm still doing the math. ;)



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Who's got their knickers in a twist?

Damn... I guess I hit a nerve with that one. Interesting the differences in who perceived my rant as FUNNY, and who didn't.

I remember a great bit Johnny Carson did one time. He came out with a podium rigged with a button and flashing lights around a sign that said LIGHTEN UP!



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My knickers might be 1/3 in a twist?

I'm still waiting to hear.

The internet is a funny place. You can't tell the tone of what people are saying and it is easy to take things the wrong way. Add to that the nicknames people hide behind and now it becomes more ambiguous.

Phaze-3 and TickTock, I hold no hard feelings toward either of you or anyone here for that matter. I will always speak my mind honestly and I'd expect the same from others. You can't really hold it against me if my sense of humor isn't the same as yours and sorry that I missed the bus on your rant/hate-fest.

As far as your ranting website, Phaze-3, RebelDad has domain name www.daddywars.com for sale!

Peace.

Brian



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Why Could It Be, Panties in a Wad, AGAIN??

Hang in the Brian, the WWW can be a cold place and I hate to butt in where I don't belong, but its good to see somebody else get a Rant here besides me. I like the Knickers twist gig but panty wadding in my mouth is more me.

We need ground rules here to attack the problem, not the person, and I'm not accusing anybody of anything! So lets all be grown up dads about it.

BTW: I got a couple good indirect compliments from some moms yesterday and I Blog about on My Blog; its a Blog about preschool and my kids development that got me psyched about my job at hand.



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I am fine, Thank you.

Thanks for the kind words, Mile-Hi. I am fine thank you. The www can be cold place. You have to select your words carefully as to not be misconstrued in any way. Anyway...



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Brian, If I've told you

Brian,

If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times: Drinking beer and posting do not mix. You are on your way to failing your grade in the "plays well with others" portion of your report card.



brianc
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Phil...

Don't make me get on the next plane to Omaha to kick your butt!

Just leave me the F@!* alone with this crap already. What? I am not allowed to express my opinions here? I mean WTF? Since when did I become the bad guy in this? I don't feel I've said or done anything wrong here. Not even 1/3 wrong. I don't wear panties or knickers like I think a couple other guys here do, so I can honestly say mine aren't in a wad about anything BECAUSE I DON"T F@*KING WEAR THEM! I'm not the guy who yells at his TV over some ficticious dude in a TV commercial who made some ficticious decisions that were different than the decisions I've made! What the hell ever happened to free speech? Huh? Can you tell me Phil?

Kidding...

Really.

Actually funny thing tonight...I was watching TV and this sort of bald guy was traveling, leaving a message on his cell phone at the airport and I thought it was that commercial. I thought to myself, "OK, here's that commercial. Let's see if it is as bad as Phaze makes it out to be." It was worse! It was the one he was where he was leaving a message for his dog and he told him to get off the couch. So, this guy abandons his daughter and his dog too? Who is this guy? Did he leave enough food out for the poor puppy? American. They know why we fly? Right.

Peace. And I mean that dammit!

: )

Brian



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Right idea, wrong ad

I'll tell you the ones that make me laugh are the drug company ads. Primarily, because they have to list the possible side-effects at the end and those are some quality reading (listening) right there. My hands down favorite is for "social anxiety disorder." Now, I doubt any of us suffers from this after all we've been through in this "profession" but I know one person, my father, who does suffer from this so I know it's serious, but even he wouldn't take the drugs they're offering because the possible side effects include: nausea, loss of bladder control, diarrhea, headaches, vomiting, sweating and other sexual side effects.

Now, not to be the obvious guy here, but if I was sweating like a pig, had a headache, was about to simultaneously throw up, pee down my own leg and then crap my pants, I'm sure there would be "possible sexual side effects" like oh, I don't know, never getting laid maybe. I'm sorry, tell me again what the UPSIDE to this drug is? I'm supposed to feel less anxious in social situations? How could I possibly feel less anxious knowing that any or all of those things could happen to me at any instant?

Clearly the advertising community has it's work cut out for it, but the next time some drug company ad comes on, listen to the side effects at the end and ask yourself, is it really worth it?



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Family Experience with Drug Ads

My brother's an exec at an ad company. He once pitched for (and won, if I recall correctly), a drug with a minor problematic side effect: explosive anal discharge. Oops :P

While we're ranting.. just got back from my first unnecessary visit to the doc for my 8-month-old. (She's fine.) The visit happened early enough for my wife to come along. She happened to be holding our daughter when the doc came in, at which point I apparently became magically invisible for the entire visit. Grr.

Fortunately, this is not our regular doc.



Cheers,
Steve

(This message courtesy of a temporarily distracted baby girl.)



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Most big Pharma ads get to

Most big Pharma ads get to me. That is supposed be the provance of doctors not the general pubilc.

The ad that used to realy get me was the McDonald's ad where the father is again off on a biz trip and his daughter asks if she is as important as his trip. Of course she is so he abandons his trip and takes her fora day of highcaloric fatty foods and all is well. Gee Janie you like that house and your clothes? Well daddy pays for all of that. You like Mommy being home? Well daddy pays for that too. When my father wentt away which was often my Mum used to take my sister and I out to the movies or what have you to make up for the fact that dad was working.

As far as a rant to two I think it''s OK. A rant is intended to reach someone and we all have mutual experiance on this board to tap into so why not. Granted my Noggin thing tuned into "kill your TV," side show but hey...

Be Seeing You.



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Side effects and poetic justice

Wouldn't it be great if Viagra and all it's many rivals had "explosive anal discharge" as a side effect? I mean why not? Almost be poetic justice, the race to get laid or have your backside explode. Talk about Russian roulette in a pill, that would truly be it.

Don't know why they need to make a pill that comes with that side effect. Every baby I've ever been around for very long comes with that capability standard. No prescription necessary.

Alby
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