SAHD Transition Blues

PVDad
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I think I've seen something like this posting before so I hope to get some fresh perspectives. I started staying at home full time last Fall. I have two kids (1 and 3) and have always been a semi-primary caregiver but this is now a full time job. My wife works insane 7-day-a-week hours so even when I worked during the day, I was still home alone with the kids at night and on weekends.

Since I started staying at home I've really sunk into a blue place. I hope some of you other dads can tell me this is a natural phase of some kind. Ironically, we chose this lifestyle for both financial reasons and also to free us up for more family time. The actuality is that our family time kind of replaced itself with work (a necessary evil to replace my income) and a kind of shared existence.

I'm trying my best to learn how to take care of my kids, the house and still love them at the same time. But, the pressure to be like my mom or my wife's mom really becomes a weighty partner, if you know what I mean. THe men in my family look at me like I must be lazy or unwilling to work and the women assume I'm either gay or completely unqualified to be a "mom."

So, the result seems to be that I lose my temper frequently and become frustrated with really seemingly silly things. Weird...I used to thrive in a high pressure work environment but nothing blows my patience like my 3 year old refusing her nap or bedtime. I still haven't figured out how to just be OK with the fact that they can't reason back to you...I'm sure everyone's been here before.

Anyway, I feel this slowly dredging away at my relationship with my wife. Has anyone out there experienced these problems? I hate to think I'm just whining, but, maybe whining in a discussion group is OK! Thanks!




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Hear ya

I know how you feel. My kids are the same age, and my baby won't let me put her down. I get so stressed out having to hold her all the time, instead of getting chores done. Sometimes the bjorn helps with that, but even then she has some sort of radar that I'm not giving her full attention.

On the nap note, I think you would do better to enforce quiet time if she won't take a nap. We have upstairs gated, so that she can take a nap or play in her toyroom during quiet time. Maybe there is some way you can establish that in your house... even if it means buying a gate for her bedroom.

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Don't have any good advice

But to say that it seems really common. I felt the same way just a few weeks ago as you can see by the entry on the homepage. I do think that getting out of the house more as the weather has improved has helped me some.

Greg



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I go in and out of blue phases

Getting out of the house with my daughter helps a lot more than I ever thought it would. Getting out and talking to people while she plays.

My daughter, I realize to my chagrin, doesn't always want to just hang out with me. When she is getting on my nerves (standing underfoot while I'm cooking, or smacking my keyboard keys while I'm trying to catch up on e-mail, or any of the hundred other things she might choose to do in the middle of the day) I try to sit for a second and wonder if she just really wants to be outside, or away from home, or hanging out with some of her baby friends or something. And that moment of reflection and questioning usually pays off, because when I think for a second I'll realize "Oh, yeah; we haven't been to X in a while" or "Even though I've played with her all day, her constant demands for attention right now might actually be a demand for me to get her someplace where she doesn't have to pay attention to me" or "Oh yeah, I forgot to feed you all day." (<----------------this one almost never happens :} )

Having her out and doing something for a chunk of time cuts way down on her need for attention when we are home. And getting out and talking to other adults while she plays helps me cut down on my bottled-up frustrations and worries. Especially if the person I'm talking to is a parent and can relate and let me vent for a while.

But I do get into funks, and my wife and I go through long periods where it seems like she has to work too much and I just want her to rinse a fucking dish instead of leaving it on the counter to crust; and she just wants me to take over with the baby even at night because she's just too tired from work to put in the energy she needs to. I don't know how you get out of that one, since you are almost involved in a relationship with a third entitiy, her boss, there, and the amount she works won't be up to her. I try to be understanding, but I also try to show real appreciation when she does say "fuck it, I'm taking this afternoon off", because I want her to know I support her choice to take a break while not also pressuring her to neglect her job. It's delicate.

Sometimes I'll load up the backpack and walk down to the flower shop and walk over to her office and leave her some tulips. If she's there, she can spend some time with her baby in the middle of the day; if she's not there she comes back to flowers. In either case it pays dividends at home.

Women love flowers. I don't get it, but I'll do whatever it takes.

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Hear Ya Too

PVDad, welcome home. :-)
It always seemed easier to me than working, staying home that is. I don’t like to work and I was actually home working as a writer when my wife became pregnant. We were adamant that one of us stay home for our girl and it was natural that it be me. I have been up and down like you – like all of us have, like at home Moms have – about staying home. It’s hard work. It’s constant and sometimes unrewarding work. You thrived in high pressure in an office environment, if I may, because there were challenges that could be overcome and you could feel a pride when a project was done. It isn’t the same with our kids, or running a home. It’s everyday all day and it’s draining. We loose ourselves. We lose what makes US tick and keeps our brain happy and interested. Find a way to do something that makes you feel like you every day or every other day if need be. I read comics. Doesn’t take long and I can “go away” as it was once put for a good 20 mins. The more you stay home the less complicated it gets, I won’t say easier but the more you will know and the more confident you will become. My wife looks at me after 2.5 years and asks, “how do you do this all day?” She smiles but I ask, “How do you go to an ad agency all day?”

Comparing yourself to mom or grandma will make you gray fast. You are you and how YOU do things is just as well. Do it your way. You meet the needs of your family and you are doing a good job no matter how people complain, which they shouldn’t because you are making a home and a loving environment for your kids.

As for the other men in your family, they are giving you an “envy attack.” They know that you now get to see and be with your kids as they grow up. It’s a gift and a blessing. You earn it but it is true. Many men feel incompetent when it comes to fathering. (Just look at “Supper Nanny.”) Many women feel like they should automatically “know” how to be Mom. The thing is it’s all learned. Our feelings are our feelings but how to care for kids? That comes in time. And when they have the courage to go against the grain and hang out with impenetrable Mommy Cliques at the playground they can criticize. You are providing, not monetarily for now, bu,t you are providing love for your kids and your wife. It’s hard being the “rock” of a family but you can do it. You are doing it now. It’s hard to but feel pride that you are being the best Man the best Dad you can be.

Be Seeing You.
Jonathan



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Hey PV

I think what you're going thru is pretty common, I know I certainly went thru most if the same stuff. I think it really takes a good year to start settling into the role - gaining skills, confidence, routines, self esteem, etc. Hang in there and give it time. I went about it that my main focus is the kids, everything else is secondary - don't try and do too much other than be there for them. I always got frustrated with the boys when I had other things to get done. And the standard advice is get the hell out of the house as much as you can - its hard to be depressed at the park or the zoo..... :-) Good luck and keep posting.

Cdn Tim



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1 and 3 Too

I have 1 and 3 year old daughters. I became a SAHD last spring, and I am just now finding my groove. I just recently stopped worrying about what others think about me being home. I think in time you will too. I have also found that many guys are giving "the looks" out of jealousy. I was getting very frustrated with my 3 yo as well, but noticed she was wanting Mommy more and more as I became more agitated with her. I just made up my mind to be more patient with her, which isn't easy at times. Over time, I have learned to communicate on her level, which has helped us both. She now asks for Daddy as much as Mommy again.

My 3 y/o still naps easily, but I agree with a previous comment. Try quiet time in her room. You might find she just lays down and falls asleep. My daughter will play for up to an hour in her room before napping. Either way, it is time to myself.

I never had any major "blues", but I always made sure we got out of the house. It really passes the day, and I notice the girls are happier (and nap easier). Here are some simple out of the house favorites that may or may not work for you.

1. Stroll around the local mall (lots of Moms and Dads do the same at ours)
2. Go to the park
3. Grocery shopping (my girls love it)
4. Go to the Grandparents house (this even gives you somewhat of a break)
5. We have a local Children's museum and a Zoo.
6. Enroll kids in YMCA classes (They usually have daycare by the hour for the little one, while you go to class with the 3 y/o).
7. Check out your own backyard. Chalk writing on the sidewalk keeps my girls busy for at least an hour.

I would suggest you and your wife try and get a sitter on a regular basis. Maybe have a standing date night. When my wife and I did this, it really rekindled the fire. Sounds like your wife is working a lot, but don't forget, SO ARE YOU! Just make it a priority, where you both get some time together. Keep in mind, she may also be stressed from being away from the kids. It took my wife some time to adjust to this as well. There was some guilt on her part about leaving them.

Hang in there, and get out of the house as much as possible. You will find your groove too!



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Redirection

Every time I sit down to write this, this damn job takes me away from the keyboard! Anyway, just wanted to chime in that we've all been there feeling low about being at home with kids, comes with the territory. Everybody's had good advice here. Just wanted to add redirection. I find that when you change the subject, or crack a joke, sing a song or do something that changes the mood when your kids are misbehaving, not taking a nap, etc. it can help. That doesn't mean I don't still get angry or frustrated, but if nothing else changing the situation around a little bit eases my mind.

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All good advice above . . .

Those are all great pieces of advice.

My kids are also 3yo and 1yo. I've definitely felt blue at times over the last 3.5 years as an AHD, but moreso in the past 1.5 years with 2 kids. There is very little downtime once you have two kids (or more), and hardly anytime for hobbies.

A couple things I have done to combat the blues:
-Exercise really helps pull me out of a funk. I joined a gym with $1 childcare and just 45 minutes without the kids gives me a break.
-Especially if your wife is working 7 days a week, hire a babysitter to come during the week for a few hours. You deserve a break! I used to do this last year every other Wednesday and it gave me a nice mental break.

Good luck!
Jim



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Besides doing what's already been said...

some of the things that did/do it for me are focusing on how important I am to my wife and kids (even when they least show it) and thinking about the fun we have together, all the things they need me for and what life might be like if the situation were different, connecting with them by becoming more engaging and involved with them, taking a positive approach and outlook as much as I can muster from moment to moment, enjoying the time together to the fullest and showing them how much they mean to me and make me happy. When I'm in this sort of groove, things are alright and little else matters. When I'm in the funk, things get wrong and most everything becomes a problem.

Weather in the funk or in a groove, both are contagious, those closest too us (especially children) are most sensitive and susceptible to either.



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Soon to be SAHD

Just wanted to express relief to hear of other's frustrations, and to express appreciation to read all the feedback/comments. I recently decided to stay home after this spring semester after 7 years of teaching. It feels like the right decision as we have a 2/4/6 yr. olds and it was stressing my wife to have to deal with childcare crises (I worked further away than her). She also appreciates that one of us will be home with the girls. As I can easily get stressed out (& angry) with the kids when couped up, so I'm really going to make a point of getting out of the house. I have several parks in the neighborhood as well as many other activities in ATL. I'm going to make an effort to meet other SAHD's in my neighborhood. Mobilizing 3 kids is a whole nother ball of wax solo, so I really need a firm plan to make the effort to get 'em out of the house. Anyways, it's great to have found this site, and make my first post! Matt



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welcome!

Matt:

Welcome to the site! It's invaluable...

You've made a great decision that you won't regret. Getting out of the house, finding at least one other SAHD is very important. Have fun!

www.davebrigham.com



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Been There Many Times

Lots of good advice.

I like what Canada Tim said. Stay focused on the kids. Everything else is secondary. It worked for me. However, finding time for myself also helped.

With the wife’s permission I blocked out time to spend with friends to either play tennis, poker, ….. Or I just spent alone time to get reenergized. Even watching movie at a theatre by myself was therapeutic.

I feel that parents need and deserve a break from their kids as much as kids need and deserve a break from their parents. If you wife can’t watch the kids for a few hours, find a neighbor or friend. And don't feel guilty about it.

Don’t try to be Super Dad. My kids will be the first to tell you that I haven’t been the perfect dad but I’ve always been around when they needed me the most.

Nobody’s perfect. Well, maybe my hero, Parrot Head at-home dad Bob Noonan. He’s got what I think is the perfect at-home dad gig.

If you really want to overcome the blues, join us in Sacramento. You deserve a break!

Hogan



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Been There Many Times Part Deux

PV,

In case you didn't know, Sacramento is where the 13th Annual At Home Dad Convention will be this year on November 8th. Hope you can join us.

Keep On Daddying



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Communicate with the wife, too

If I can chime in, I think it's important to communicate with our spouses about this, especially if their work schedule is making it hard. It's definitely not the stereotype, but women can be workaholics, too. Our wives need to know we need them, not just the money they make.



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Back-Up

Last year, when my wife started traveling for work, a lot, we decided to set a standing time and day with our sitter. If my wife is in town, we go on a date. If not, I go out alone. I would not have survived without it. It is still a fixed arrangement, which is good because her travel has started again.

So, as said already, get some help to allow you time off. Could you have worked your high pressure job 24/7 like you do now? Nope. If you went back to that job, for a long time it might seem too easy..

Good luck, keep coming back and posting - whatever!

Jim
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Dad to Cole, Luke & Trev



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The Net

I Have To Wipe His What?

I can see through this post how conversing on the net with other sahd's can be quite beneficial. Sure, I know plenty of people with kids, but I don't know any guys that stay home to raise them everyday. It's nice to be able to get feedback from people in similiar circumstances. I'm feeling a certain level of pre-baby blues at the moment, so reading everyones storys and advice is somewhat comforting.



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The Net

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I understand...

I have been a SAHD since my partner and I adopted our son in Sept. 2007. While we had discussed that one of us would be a full-time SAHD, it was quite a shock when the time came to step up to the plate. We brought our son home on a Monday night, so I went from working on Monday to not working on Tuesday. The initial transition was okay since my partner took 12 weeks off for family leave and we had family and friends checking in on us for the first few weeks. As we entered January '08, the weather was not at all inviting for outside play and daddy #2 went back to work. I found myself struck with a case of the blues. I began to question my decision. I began to wonder what was happening to ME. These feelings were not helped by people asking me when I was going back to work, the same people (even family members) who knew our original plans. Of course, there were the few comments from women (older females...please do not take offense anyone, I'm just stating a fact) at the market... "Babysitting, I see," or "double duty today?" One day, I took offense and replied, "Since when is taking care of my baby, 'babysitting?'

In the end, none of this really mattered. The weather cleared, I began to get outdoors more, and I started a mixed-parents (moms, dads, gay, straight, single, partnered/married) group; but more importantly time simply marched on and I grew increasingly comfortable with my role.



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Mike

The good weather definitely helps. Don't let the ladies at the store get to you.

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Your right, Mike Not one

Your right, Mike
Not one thing they say matters. What matters is the fact you and your partner are the ones responsible for the up bringing of your child. Good luck with your new life as a parent.



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sahd

I am new to this site. I have been a sahd for 7 years now and it is refreshing to be able to have exchanges of information with other sahd. In the last 7 years I feel like I have seen & heard it all. You will encounter PLENTY of negativity both actual and percieved. I have always said that it takes a thick skin to be a sahd. You only have to answer to yourself and your family, no one else matters unless they have something positive & encouraging to say. It took me awhile to really understand all this and be able to deal with it. I still have some issues from time to time but overall I have overcome them. The most important thing in my life is my family and doing right by them. At the end of the day, it's all that matters to me. Hope this helps.



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Just joined & I too understand these feelings. Glad site exists.

Hi everyone,

This topic really hits home for me too. I have a 3 year old daugher and a 7 month old son. I've been a stay at home dad for almost 2 years. I do help people find homes as a part time real estate agent, but with the market the way it is that's very sporadic. I'm struggling with so many thoughts from things like my poor wife is working so hard and if it wasn't for her we'd be on the streets to thoughts such as am I a loser shouldn't I be the one out working and not her. The thing is with her job she can make almost double as she has a specialized degree. I have a bachelors degree and general skills but not in a specific area.

I get looks all the time in the Boise area. Boise, Idaho is very conservative and has a higher percentage of stay at home mothers than many other mid size metro areas. Mothers look at me all the time but some do smile and think it's "cute" that I'm taking care of my kids by day. It's hard for I miss adult conversation and I comraderie of guy friends to watch sports with and talk about the situation.

I started a new Boise/Treasure Valley area of Idaho SAHD group in hopes that some other dads may want to meet up from time to time. If anyone knows Boise area SAHD please let them know about the new group.

I'm very thankful this group exists and I look forward to learning a lot from other SAHD here.



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new here also

Hi everyone,

I recently joined this site too. I am a 48 year old father of three, twin boys that are 6 and a girl that is 4. One of my sons is autistic and the other may have ADHD. The girl is just stubborn. Don't get me wrong I love my kids, but it can be a bit much being in there presence almost constantly.
My wife works two jobs so she isn't home very much to spend time with them, although when she does she gets to do the "fun stuff" like parties, games, etc. On these outtings I usually come along also because to watch three active children alone is pretty much impossible.
Unfortunately there are usually no dads at these functions and when there is they usually don't spend a lot of time with there children. I usually have more in common with the moms than dads.
I do have a handful of friends from church, but conversation with them is limited because most of there children have left the nest. They give me hope and tell me things will get better, but we can't relate to much more than that.
My relationship with my wife is very strained because we don't have much time with each other due to work and the children. We don't have family that lives near by and when we find someone willing to watch the kids they usually are only willing to watch 1 or 2 of them but seldom all 3.
My wife doesn't understand when I say to her that she has a little relief because she gets to leave the house and socialize with actual adults.

Thanks to this website (and to my insurance for turning me onto it) maybe I kind find some relief if nothing more than a laugh or someone that can relate to where I am and where I am going.



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new sahd

I became a SAHD when our son was born eight months ago. My wife got postpartum depression almost immediately and I had to do almost everything. She was barely able to work. She started getting better about a month ago, and that's when the blues hit me. I went to one of her appointments with her postpartum therapist and was finally able to let it out. Since then, my wife and I have started communicating about what each of us needs and have come up with solutions to help both of us. One of the things that helped was for each of us to get out by ourselves and do whatever we wanted for a few hours a couple of times per week, even if we needed to hire a sitter. Another was for us to go out together and spend some time with other couples. The main thing we communicated about was that if we did what we needed to take care of ouselves, we'd be better able to take care of the baby. Its definitely helped. Over the last couple of weeks, I've either hired a sitter or left him with grandma for a couple of hours a couple time per week and gone surfing. I've also started going to the gym sometimes while leaving him in the childcare area of the gym. Even an hour of time for me does wonders. And communicating with my wife about what each of us needs has also done wonders.

Tim



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Day by day

We take it day by day! My wife also suffered from postpartum. The first couple of months were extremely difficult. Things started getting much better, once she went back to work. My wife has recently ended her sessions because everything has gotten better. Her therapist was very happy with the progress. We also try to make time for ourselves (going to the gym, bike rides...) and it does wonders for our entire family.

Rich HR.



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Getting a babysitter helps!

TimB: I was going to the gym every morning at 5 or 5:30. After awhile, I got tired of having to get up so early just to have time to myself. My partner suggested getting a babysitter so I could go to the gym and practice martial arts. I felt guilty the first couple of times, though, but I got used to it. I also felt much better when I would come home and see that my son was having a great time with the babysitter.



Lucky
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I'm with you...from another newbie

PVDad:
(I started trying to reply ~9 hours ago...it's just been one of those days!)

I'm new to this site as well and have been a SAHD (4.5 yo and 2 yo) for two years. I still go through the ups and downs and unfortunately still struggle with losing my cool over some of the silliest things you can imagine. I don't think I can add much to all of the stellar advice in the earlier posts, but (here goes!) the things that work best for me are:

-Forcing myself to stop and laugh. Sometimes it's easy, like when I picture what it's like for an outsider to watch me chasing a 2 yo boy back and forth in the back seat of my car trying to put him in the right kid seat. Sometimes it's not...
-Regularly re-reading notes/emails from friends about their kids. I have some friends that are really good at blubbering on about their kids and their notes are great for bringing me back to a good perspective on life.
-Putting notes/signs around the house to remind me about how important my "new" job is and how lucky I am to be able to do it. This felt really dumb at first but has really helped many times.
-Laughing some more. Drinking. Laughing some more. :)
-Do your best to find a sitter. I/we've never been good at this one. But whenever we've pulled it off, either for me to go do something or for us to go on a date, the results have been spectacular.

Good luck! Keep posting how it's going!



Grover
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Make time for your wife and the rest will fall in place

This is a very crucial time in your relationship. Take it from a guy who is in Marriage Counseling as a result of "the affair". Post partum come back in the form of the wife not feeling live or that she is getting enough attention. What eventually happens is an old flame or a buzzard some type will see the time to move in and fulfill the needs of her "fantasy" world, or take her away from the mundane tell her she is beautiful get the feeling of euphoria that she pre-children and early marriage.

Suggestion: take a long romantic weekend show her that you are there for the two of you and not either individual and don't wait for the disasterous catalyst to start you relationship anew and maybe make it even better.



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