You spent how much? On what?

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Here goes...
I'm new here and wondered how others have dealt with the change (no pun intended).
Years back (SAHD for about 7 years now) I made the big bucks for most of our marriage and my wife was just beginning her career. After 9-11 I decided to go freelance and start my home business, my wife as a parter too. While she helps with the home business here and there, her full time job is really all she works on, and she gives them 110%. As with any home business there are ups and downs and now my wife is making the big bucks. And that is fine, but what is with this money crap? She complains I'm not making enough yet she spends money on whatever she pleases, but if I take out a hundred bucks here or there I get the third degree.

Anybody else?

I've shared all my 30+ year of corporate experience with her when she asked and she has climbed to an executive level fast (and I'll be the first to give her all the credit), but now its like I'm some old fart who doesn't have a clue how "the real workplace" runs today.... wtf? She now walks in (never on time), looks over the mail (as I'm serving dinner I've worked to keep hot) and say's "so, what did you do today?"

I run the house, take care of the kids, help with homework, cook the meals, keep five computers running and updated, landscape the yard, all the home repairs, painting, all the interior wood molding, wash clothes plus we have two housecleaners who do all the rest of the cleaning. And I run my business as best I can in between everything else.

And sex, heck, she is always to tired or just starting or coming off her @#!&#! period.

Well, that's a start. Thanks for letting me vent. Any takers for a little advice?




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#1) Talk to her.

#1) Talk to her. Communication is the key.

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DTMFA

DTMFA!!! :)
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DTMFA???

Don't
Touch
My
Fat
A$$????

???????

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Hate to say it

But from a distance, it looks like your heading down a bad road. Change directions. Listen to Dayv. Talk. If that doesn't help, get a professional third ear to listen. I know you're just venting, and we all need to do that occasionally. But you better take control of the problem before it controls you. (Dear Abby, signing off....)



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Not dumping anybody, hope not to be dumped

Venting, yep.... and the best bet (been there and it works) is another third ear as you suggest.
I'm just really looking for anyone who has had the tables turned, breadwinner wise. I think it is really going to her head and making her act like my boss when she feels, however. Not sure how you mean "controls me"... but she likes to act like she does. Maybe it's me pushing 50 years old and I'm paranoid she is 10 years my younger.... she is damn good looking and I've, well relaxed a tad. Oh well, off to get dinner on the table. Thanks guys.



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Nevermind...

You didn't say "damn good looking" in the first post. I change my stance entirely.

Sorry to goof on your rant. I know that you're being honest, and you deserve some better feedback than what I can give. Just know that you don't deserve to be treated poorly, no matter how pretty she is, how old she is, or how much money she makes. A lot of this passive agressive bickering comes out because of other unspoken problems. Root out the psychological core of the problem, and you might just find something worth talking about.

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Just to clarify

I meant that the situation will get out of control if you both don't work on it, I did not mean to imply that she was controlling you.



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Remote Control

Hey BAKEDMEDIA,
Belive it or not this is a common occurance in married life. AHD or not. Suzy Orman talks quite a bit about how the person in a relationship who makes the most money often feels as if they should have the most control. My wife is equitable in her treatment of money but occasionaly buys something she feels is OK because she makes the money. She gives me cash for an account I have to run the house, etc. But recently we agreed to put the house on the AMEX. So recently it has turned out to be my money for "stuff." I get books or see a movie if I have a day off. I don't feel about about being a 36 year old with an allowance becasue damit I have earned it! You are supposed to be in a union. That is easy to say but not always easy to act out. I had an enforced friend (girlfriend of an acctual friend) who felt no matter what she did it was "the hardest," she was always, "the least understood." She insited once after we had both been sick that her fever had been higher than mine thus she had suffered more. The way to "get to" her was not feed the beast, not feed her gapping maw of an ego. She hatted it and it casued friction but we found a way to co exist. This is much harder in a marrage. You can always keep books for what you spend on the house, how much of her income goes here and there. If you do that include what she spends on things that she hasn't consulted you about. My wife and I have a $60 celing. Neither of us have ever said no but as it has been said it keeps us talking about money and shows we respect each other. I think the "R" word here is key cause if the purse strings are closed and so are the legs? Then you probably have respect issues. Not to mention - plese understand I don't want to insult you- but you invalidate yourself saying, "I've shared all my 30+ year of corporate experience with her when she asked and she has climbed to an executive level fast (and I'll be the first to give her all the credit), but now its like I'm some old fart who doesn't have a clue "

Own it mate! Own how you feel and what it is you do out of love of your children. She needs to understand that you have sacraficed for her success as well as the future of your kids. Oh...never use the words, "control freak."

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ticktock, sfoster, New No. 2, thanks.

This is really helpful to hear all the input... but this latest one has hit several right notes. Is it the lack of my respect or hers? To quote: "I think the "R" word here is key cause if the purse strings are closed and so are the legs? Then you probably have respect issues. Not to mention - please understand I don't want to insult you- but you invalidate yourself......"
Own it mate! Own how you feel and what it is you do out of love of your children. She needs to understand that you have sacrificed for her success as well as the future of your kids."

Can you help me understand what way you think I am going here? Respect, purse strings, and the legs are right up on the top ten "to fix" list.... just not sure who is doing what to close them.

Cheers gents!
Bill



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The Fix

I’m not sure this sit-chee-atchin and be fixed. What it can be is changed.

R-e-s-p-e-c-t? I mean you Bill! Respect that you are the best at what you do. There are others as good but no one better. Respect that you are a mushroom cloud laying motherfu*ker when it comes to your responsibilities in your family. You enable your wife the steady home so she can be comfortable at work knowing here children are in the care of Dad not a stranger. You keep the house, no small task, and are there for your lovely kids 24/7.

Being an AHD isn’t a fall back position for weenies that can’t make it in “the real world.” Many of the men on this site were huge successes in other fields from the sciences to a submariner. Some of us were moved to this position by circumstances but many of us chose to be at home. You have that choice too. You can talk to your wife about day care if she feels that would be more economic. Heck you look into it on your own and see how much YOU make. This is an old joke but it’s true, most AHPs are really making about 100K a year. An AHD is a front line soldier in the world. Just like his female counterparts. You have a very hard job. It’s frustrating to leave a structured biz environment for the more free flow of the home. It is much less satisfying in terms of feeling like you completed something or that you have the respect or even the friendship of co-workers. It’s isolating and draining…but…if you don’t give yourself due than who will? I’m sure your wife feels many complex emotions about being bread winner, and she may have a touch of “Mommy Guilt” but you explore how you feel first. Then see what follows.

I hope that helps. :-)

~Jonathan

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Hey, New No.2...

Well said!

And, if you happen to see Rebel Dads post down there to the right, you can actually calculate an AHP's salary at salary.com

ttp://swz.salary.com/dadsalarywizard/layoutscripts/dswl_localrange.asp?dadtype=1&preschool=1&schoolage=1&zipcode=22301



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Thanks

Thank you brinac. You flatter me.
I try. I've had a shite load of veeery good thearpy. I'm just spreading the love. One must always belive they are kicking a and taking numbers no matter what it is they do in life. If you don't belive you are doing a great job then no one will.

Except Ms. Ferrier.

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Just a thought

Hey Bill,

While I agree fully with the thoughts already expressed, I have one more to consider.

Being in a big job all day, where it is your responsibility to be the boss, can set you up to slip into a rut that keeps you in that mode even after you leave the job. It happens from time to time in our house. A simple empathetic statement is extrememly helpful, and usually the beginning of a short, civil, productive conversation to correct all that is bad.

By the way, it is not always my wife who can't stop 'running the show'.

Jim
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Dad to Cole, Luke & Trev



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This is so Great...

You guys really have helped and have great suggestions. I'll save them all. On the home front I've spent the day prepping for my 13 year olds birthday party / sleepover with five friends... plus the wife and our ten year old. So far everything is going great. After picking up the cake I got home just in time to meet a florist at the house and took the flowers in for my daughter, after an hour I glanced at the card, and yep, they were for me... "DEAR BILL, YOU ARE THE BEST FATHER AND HUSBAND A GIRL COULD EVER ASK FOR. THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO - YOU'RE THE BEST! LOVE ALWAYS, CARRIE"

Well, shucks.... Just when you think you know something they go and do this. Heck, This might even be my lucky night! Cheers to you all and again, I am so glad I found the site and thanks for everyones support. Maybe I was holding my head a little higher the last few days and as you've mentioned, I had respect and confidence and she noticed.

Best to everyone! TGIF!



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Hazza!

Hazza and Hurra Bill,
It all attatude. (Well youdo need to do your job but you get what I mean.)
Look at New Zealand Sheep Dogs they control the sheep with their eyes. They know they are master of the flock, and the sheep respect it. Also, UN Peace Keepers arfen't armed becuase they are trained not to need wepons, it's posture, eye contact, and they listen first, then act. Alway slisten to the wife, she may be confused too. Not to mention Chris Rock is right, when listening to a woman say, "yea...uh-hu...I told you she was crazy..." and the killa, "I told you she was out to get you."

Glad you are feeling better.

Be Seeing You.
Jonathan



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