Men Who Just Don't Get It

Hogan
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While I was watching Matt (16) practice with his volleyball team, a coach (of another team) walked up to me and said, “You spend a lot of time hanging out with Matt. He needs time away from you……I don’t understand why you are still here.”

“I love watching him play and practice. I love the game. And I love watching all the other players practice.”

I felt sorry for the coach who was not a parent, who did not know I was an at-home dad and understand the special father/son relationship I have with Matt.

I’ve had other dads also ask, “How can you sit there for two hours and watch practice? “Don’t you have better things to do?”

Yes. But I choose to spend it watching Matt and his teammates practice volleyball. For me watching Matt (even at the age of 16) develop and improve his volleyball skills is no different then when I watched him grow up during his early childhood years. Being at practice has also given me the luxury of building great relationships with Matt’s teammates.

Every second I spend with Matt (and his brothers) is precious to me.

I’d rather have someone criticize me for spending too much time with my son than for not spending enough time with him.

This incident with the coach and dads reminds me of a story I read about two people who stood in front of a Michelangelo painting.

Person #1 said, “What a beautiful painting!”

Person #2 said, “It would have been much more beautiful to have watched him paint it.”

I feel sad for the coach and other men who just don’t get it.

KOD




jpod00
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Well Said

Jim Boulder, CO Dad to Cole, Luke, Trev & Delaney Regional Coordinator, DaddysHome Inc.



Mike Stilwell
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Hogan: You know this coach

Hogan:

You know this coach and I don't so I can't speak to whether or not this guy doesn't get it or not.  However, I can give you some insight from the perspective of another high school coach. 

We encourage parents to come and watch a practice and be involved in their child's sport, lord knows we could use the help with the ways school systems are always cutting budgets and restricting funds, resources, etc.  That said, a parent that is at practice often for the whole practice can cause the athletes to not work or act the same.  They know they are being watched even when they say they aren't, they act differently when their parents are around.  I can't tell you how many times a parent has been to observe a practice and after they leave or the next day that parent's athlete will say something to the effect of; "I like it when my dad is here, but he makes me nervous" or; "I always seem to screw up when my dad is around".

It may be that Matt's coach notices a difference in Matt's play or behavior when you are watching a practice.  You might try asking him if this is true.  Who knows, maybe he is just an idiot and doesn't get it, but then again he may be an astute judge of Matt's actions, play, and behavior.

Mike Stilwell - President, Daddyshome, Inc. - The National At-Home Dad Network www.daddyshome.org

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chitownman
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Awesome Hogan

That is awesome Hogan as I am sure that your assessment is quite accurate in what the coach is perceiving.  I enjoy being around while Sammy is practicing his hockey at this point and I am learning to play the sport properly myself so that maybe I am able to help him out as he grows and continues his desire to play the game.  The one thing I do notice as well that even with some of the dads that are at the hockey practices, some still do not get it and allow their sons to do idiotic things.  I also understand Mike's point as well and think that no matter what; that you and the rest of us should do what we want and who cares what others say or think.  I am looking forward to being able to see even more sport practices for my twins and watching their games as well.

 

Robb Midwest Regional Coordinator

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Hogan
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Other Parents also at Practice

I understand your perspective Mike but this is club volleyball not high school.  Other parents also attend but they are moms.  Most of the dads don't stay.

As far as Matt is concerned it doesn't make him nervous to have me watch him.  It definitely doesn't affect his performance.  He was selected to the 2009 USA 16's Indoor Volleyball Training Team and the USA Beach Volleyball Under-19 Training Team.  He also played on the AVP Tour last year against some players twice his age.

This particular coach was out of line.  However, there are also parents who get out of line.  I'm not one of them.  This particular coach may have made an assumption of me based on his past experiences with out of control parents.

The other reason I'm at the practice is because of the 90 minute drive.  It doesn't make sense for me to drive back home.  Information that this coach didn't have.

 

 

 

 

 



Albyonfloats
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Losing touch is one thing, but abandoning requires intent

I agree with you, Hogan, this time to enjoy your son's athletics is crucial for both of you. My oldest is only 13 but he's a hockey kid and with travel hockey we often see ice time 5 or 6 days out of the week between practices and games. I am on the board of directors there so I usually hang around to watch practice so people can pick my brain and voice their concerns, but it's sad how hockey has become a glorified baby-sitting service for some of these parents. They drop them off 30 minutes before practice and the kids go out and do their thing on the ice and the kids change back into their street clothes and the parents pick them up in the turnaround out front, never having set foot in the building, let alone watched their kid work out. We pay a lot of money to have our kids play hockey and from an economic standpoint alone, you'd think they'd take more interest, but sadly many do not.  Sure, it can be boring, but as a wise man once told me, nobody ever says on their death bed, "I wish I'd spent more time at the office."

As my son gets older, it gets increasingly more difficult to find things that we both like to do and losing touch with my oldest is going to be hard enough to prevent without me going out of my way to ignore the things that are important TO HIM, which is why I sit in the stands and watch him play. He's good at it, he loves it, and we always have at least one thing we can talk about, so for that alone I am grateful.

Maybe your coach gets it, but probably not. Maybe he is simply projecting onto his players how he felt growing up, or maybe not. We'll likely never know, but one thing you mentioned is most telling. There were other players' parents there, but they were women. Any bets he didn't ask them the same question? In my mind, that's the truly telling part of that coach's behavior. If mom watches, that's normal because, what? She's a housewife and therefore of course has nothing better to do as he put it? Some kids may act differently around their parents, but it's not likely to be as noticeable on the court unless you're the overbearing, shouting type and we all know that just isn't you. Sounds to me like we have a gender bias from an unlikely and disappointing source. But why should he be any different?

 

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. -- Albert Einstein



Hogan
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Losing Touch

All good points but not losing touch most important to me because in less than two years Matt will attend college.

Matt chose to play volleyball.  I knew nothing about the game.   One of the reasons I attend practice is to learn more about the game.  The more I know the more I can engage in conversations with Matt.

After each practice and game, Matt and I always talk about what he can improve on to be a better player, progress of other players, strategies.......etc.  Matt knows more about volleyball and he values the effort I put into learning about something he loves.  Matt also likes that he finally knows more about something than his dad!  Laughing

 



Hogan
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Life Before Volleyball

Before volleyball Matt played drums.  I took drum lessons with Matt.  He turned out to be an excellent drummer.  I sucked!

Matt did not play an organized sport until age 13.  I thought he was going to be a rock star.

Then one day he picked up a volleyball and couldn't put it down.

Today, Matt is one of the top 50 USA indoor volleyball players in his age group and top 10 in USA Beach Volleyball Under 19 group.

Last year at age 16, Matt won a USA Beach Junior 18's Division Tournament with partner, Eric Barber (17).  Matt also played in three of the professional AVP Tour stops and five other Men's Open Tournaments.  He won his first Open Qualifier match with partner Boris Blecik (38), a former Yugoslavian National Player, against a reputable AVP team.

Matt has also practiced with several top AVP players, including volleyball legend Karch Kiraly, Jake Gibb, Sean Rosenthal, Matt Fuerbringer, Casey Jennings, Ed Ratledge, Ty Tramblie........

This year we have made plans for him to play in more AVP and other Open Tournaments.



Bruce_GB_SAHD
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Love life with volleyball!

I love the Hogan is able to support his son playing a game where it is an club, hs, college, and Olympic sport and you could possibly deduct sunscreen on your taxes as a professional. We have watched AVP volleyball in 4 different states (Does CA count?) and feel that it is one of the best professional sports to watch. (Also, my wife played vball with me on Friday and knocked out her 2nd archilles in 11 months). Ouch! Stay safe and have fun!

Bruce Cantrall, dad to 3!
Northeast Wisconsin at Home Dads (Green Bay)

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