Overwhelmed

KidsRUs2669
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Hi im a new stay at home dad of 4 and i have been feeling quite overwhelmed with 2 being at home 24/7 and having 2 in school and having a 5 bedroom house to clean and 2 dogs to take care of without a fenced yard on a main road so outside isnt an option with kids and dogs and NEVER getting a minute to myself and no way to change that can any1 give me any advice to not be so overwhelmed


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TopDog
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Buy In Bulk

Buy what you use most of in bulk.  And, if you use it during one or two weeks buy more of it also.    Does not sound you have an ideal home for dogs, so can they be given up to a different family, and you can see dogs on your strolls?  Use hand me down clothes, wherever, whenever.  Are any relatives nearby who can help out.  You've got it tough.  Simplify, Simplify, Simplify.



TopDog
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Reduce the Number of Rooms

Would it help if some of the children had shared rooms.  Make one an office that you can retreat to. Also,  people tend to have a lot of stuff, that they do not need. If it is not absolutely needed, then get rid of it. Too many toys,  games for the floor that you then have to pick up. If the young kids have too many toys, then get rid of half of them. You'll have fewer to pickup. Have the older kids start to take care of themselves while you supervise. Reduce, Reduce, Reduce.



Philip.in.Kyle
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sounds like Dad needs a time

sounds like Dad needs a time out of his own.  Schedule it let your wife know in advance which night you plan on taking off from work, go out by yourself and grab a quick bite to eat then go catch a good sci-fi or horror movie (at the theater) then stop by home depot on your way home and browse for 30 minutes.  I make one of these self dates about every 2 months and it's better for every one.

 



jpod00
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Take It Back

Dude, you are so stressed your first post is all one sentence!

Take back some control.  Just a little bit at a time.  Start with you.

You've already taken the first step.  You signed on to this site.  Next find local dads who also stay home.  Get to know them.  Like almost everyone on this site, they get what you are going through, and can help.  Like Philip.in.Kyle said, make some time for you.  His description of a 'self-date' sounds spot on.  You can change the details to fit your preferences.  Then move on to the kids.  Take stock, and try to figure out when it is most advantageous to say no, but also when to say yes.  The older ones have friends from school that want play dates?  Say yes.  When little Joey's mom offers to take yours home for a few hours, and she'll even drive him (or her) back home, say YES!  This may sound counter-intuitive, but have those kids to your house.  They occupy your child (or children) without any needs from you, and it gives you a break.  Use nearby relatives or close friends to come over, or take some or all of the kids whenever possible.  Set new rules, they need to put away what they are using before they take out something else (2 y.o. kids can learn to do this).  Story time can be for all of them, you can get several books in at once, and they all sit there listening.  I guess what it boils down to is this, every step towards relieving your load, no matter how small, is helpful.  Grab it, make it part of your routine, then get the next thing.

Find a way to get to the convention in the fall.  I was at home for nearly four years before I found the convention and the associated networks of other at-home-dads.  I was on the brink of giving up, and now I have two more kids, I moved away from where I grew up, had lots of family and friends and still feel more capable than before that first convention.  My situation is just like yours, I have two in school and two still at home full time.  We are lucky enough that we have a nanny help me out in the afternoons.  You could find any trustworthy neighborhood kid to do the same for you.  Just someone to play with the kids in the afternoon (the hardest part of the day) does wonders for your mental state.

Hope this all helps.  Sorry, I ramble a bit...

 

Jim - Boulder, CO - Dad to Cole, Luke, Trev & Delaney - Regional Coordinator, DaddysHome Inc.



KidsRUs2669
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Tried most already

We buy bulk items as much as we can for the most part. Grocerys arent a problem.

As for our dogs i couldnt do that to my kids nor my dogs they are a part of the family.

As for clothes my kids are set for a while but all my boys hand their clothes down.

As for relatives the only one around is my sister in law and her husband but they are always too busy to help with much and cant babysit but they try other ways to help.

As for my wife she goes to college part time and works part time so by the time she gets home she is tired,sore and frustrated by her day so i tend not to ask her for much cuz I know how it feels to work all day and come home and be asked to do more lol.

I would love to get more control back in my life! Only one of my older kids have friends that the parents do playdates and its only once in a while. We are very picky on what type of influences are around our kids so most of the kids around here they arent allowed to play with cuz of 1 or more very bad interactions they have had. Whenever we have had other children come over they amount of stress and noise doubles which leads to more frustration. I have already started the rule about not getting more stuff out while still having stuff out but i have to keep an extra eye on my 3 yr old if i even go to the bathroom he will be getting into stuff so its hard to keep all their stuff up. I have no relitives or friends here only lived here for 14 months and never get out to meet ppl so I am very alone here. Story time is hard to do cuz one will get bored and want to do other stuff and its not fair of me to stop reading to all of em just cuz one doesnt want to sit still and listen.Not to mention my kids have a bed time of 8pm but most days one of them will wake up early and wake up the others so it makes my day even longer. Then I spend most of the night cleaning,doing laundry, organizing as much as possible, getting everything ready for the next day and then I try to spend as much time with my wife as possible so i usally go to bed anywhere from 1am to 3am and get up anywhere from 5-7am and start getting kids ready for school which i have to walk to school cuz they are too close to ride the public school bus and its not worth the gas besides i only have a lil car atm when i first moved here i had a 2005 dodge grand caravan but got in a wreck and totaled it when swurving to miss a dog and the insurance would only pay for the car i ramped off so i lost my vechile.

I would more then love to go to one of the conventions but with my wifes schedule its virtualy impossible.There are no trustworthy older kids around here.

ok ill shut up now I seemed to have wrote a mini novel my bad

Thx for all your help with this its much appreciated



TopDog
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Hang in There Keep a Lookout for Other At Home Dads

You've got it tough.   Try to find areas to make it easier on yourself.  Look for others to help out.  A local church to bring food?  Other ideas.  A food bank?  Have food delivered by your local supermarket?  Anything to help you.  Seems like you've got it under control, but you've got some years to get through.



TopDog
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Community Centers or Boys and Girls Clubs in your Area?

Are there any Community Centers or Boys and Girls Clubs where the kids can go, you can go with them, but then they watch the kids so you can grab a soft drink, or juice while there and relax?  Even if some of your kids are younger if an adult is there at a Community Center that maybe ok.  Don't do groups that require something from you. You've got enough on your plate.



omahahomedad
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This ain't easy bro...

Like you and Jim, I too have 4 kids with 2 in school and 2 little ones at home. I don't have the dogs, though, since I am quite allergic to them.

Boy do I feel your pain though. My most difficult time during my 7 years at home has been the last 2 years. Our last 2 are only 16 months apart while the older ones are all a little over 2 years apart. The short turn around for those last two meant that I had two babies at the same time; sort of like twins except the older one could get into stuff while I tried to feed the baby. At the time, our 2nd oldest was not in Kindergarten yet, but she was rarely any help since she was often making a mess somewhere too. Oh, and until recently, my wife travelled about 3 days a week so I almost never had a break.

A couple of the walls in our house took the brunt of my frustrations.

Now, here's what helped. First, I stayed connected with at-home dads on this site, attended the convention and went to playgroups here in Omaha with our local at-home dad group. Second, I begged my wife for help whenever she was home. Even though she was tired, she knew that she had to help; these are her kids too. And, I was tired too, so that excuse doesn't really work anyway. Third, I have had to learn to accept a certain amount of chaos. Certain areas of our house are littered with toys almost constantly. I pretend they aren't there. The noise level is astronomical some times, especially when friends are over. I turn a deaf ear to it. I look at the most important thing: are the kids occupied; are they happy; are they leaving me alone for a few minutes. If I can accomplish these three things, I consider it good.

Oh, and one final thing... you mentioned something about the neighbor kids not being a good influence so you don't allow your children to play with them. Obviously I don't know the situation, so keep that in mind with what I'm going to say. To get your sanity back, you may have to loosen the reigns on this one.

As parents, our job is to prepare our children to go out in to the world to be self-sufficient, successful adults. That means they will have to deal with all kinds of people and be able to make the right decisions on their own. Keeping them away from all negative influences is NOT always in their best interest. They have to learn how to deal with these situations and overcome them. Sometimes, these can be excellent teaching opportunities. Sometimes, your children will have to learn that if they do X with Johnny, they are going to get in trouble even if Johnny doesn't. And, if these kids are at your house, they have to follow your rules or they have to go home (I do that a lot).

So, I suggest to reach out for help from other at-home dads near you (they are out there; we can help you find them), accept some of the chaos and loosen the reins a bit. These are the things that helped me reduce the frustration.

Al Vice-President, Daddyshome, Inc. - The National At-Home Dad Network www.daddyshome.org



KidsRUs2669
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bad town

Sadly no there isnt anything around here that doesnt expect the parents to help out even the preschool here is a co-op preschool so if i want my kid to go there i have to help out not only my kid but all the kids in the class but they wont let me bring my 3 yr old with me only the 5 yr old that would be going.



KidsRUs2669
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reigns

if i was to loosen the reigns and my kid went around any kids into sexual acts or physical harmful acts I would then become the bad guy in my wifes eyes as well as my in-laws plus i love my kids being home with me and would rather be overwhelmed then anything happen to my kids mentally or physicaly I have seen personally (my own experiances)what happens to kids that arent protected and would rather die then allow my children to go through what i had to as a kid i want them to stay innocent as long as possible! Yes i probably have way too high expectacions for them but i cant help it.



KidsRUs2669
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A big Thanks

I would just like to say a big thank you to all of you no other sites or people have even bothered to reply so thank you guys very much!



Hogan
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Learn to have fun!

Hey, we all have our long list of issues and struggles.  And we all try to find the best way to deal with them.

Here is what worked for me.  I focused on what I could do to make being an at-home dad fun for me.  When I made it fun for me, being home made it fun for my kids and their friends.

A couple of examples (Reader's Digest version):

As I fed my infant son in his high chair, I'd have conversations with him.  I'd pretend I'm the waiter, ask him questions and then answer for him. At the end of the meal I'd ask if he wanted to pay with cash or credit card.  He, ahhh I mean I answered "credit card."  After I cleaned him up I placed the credit card on the tray and let him play with it.  Sometimes I'd even incorporate "Three Stooges" quotes into my conversations with him.  "Ohhh, wise guy eh!"  "The cheese dad. The cheese."  "Yuk, yuk, yuk."

When son got older I had a unique way of answering the front door after the bell rang.  I'd look out the window to see who it was.  If it was one of my son's friends I'd get down on my knees, open the door and greet him as if I were a dog.  I'd bark, pant and act friendly.

Okay, so the neighborhood kids thought I was a little nutty.  Who cares.  I was having fun.

Don't waste your time worrying about all the small stuff (aka crap).

Have FUN being an at-home dad.

 

 



TopDog
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Older Kids Helping Out

Have you passed down some responsibility to the older kids?  They push the stroller on the little ones as you walk to school.  They clean their rooms, and help the little ones play.  They play with the little one's when everyone get's home. They take care of the dogs.  Make a list of all the tasks in your life.  Then figure out as they get older, which one's they can do, and at what age.  Or, at least figure it out mentally.  Pass down the responsibility, then your checking so that things get done, or they report back. Try to make your life easier for yourself as you go along in life. Share the workload.



TopDog
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The Tasks You Do At Night Do during the Day

Make your life easier, and save money.  Do your laundry during the day. Your wife can set it up, you and the kids run it. Then let it air dry outside.  Look at what you do at night and do them during the day.  Then late at night and very early in the morning can be yours. Watch some tv by yourself for a little bit.  You've got to rearrange your schedule to find some time for yourself. To chill out and relax. Maybe on the weekend you and your wife can figure out what the kids are going to wear, and then you execute it.  To make it easier on everybody, you've got to make it work like a team.



Irie Feeling
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Nice looking family

Hope you are doing better, bro. It's so hard. But worth it. My wife is upset that our baby likes me better. You got a nice looking family, hang in there. I had more fun, socializing at work, but would put up a fit If my wife said I had to go back. Cheers. Jeff 



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