Frustration at Home with Wife’s Dark Side

Hogan
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How does a husband deal with a wife who has been seduced by the dark side?

What do you do when your wife is deceitful, lost sense of right and wrong, admits to lying and still does, spends money without my permission or telling me what it’s for from our joint account and will not seek professional counseling to address these issues? (Our savings account has been dwindling rapidly over the last year and the spending has been linked to our son's addictions.)

Out of desperation I attended Alanon . I spoke with an Alanon staff member and expert. There is no support group for spouses of enablers. The meeting I attended was with a group of people affected by a person in their life who is an alcoholic or drug addict.  Ironically, they were all enablers. And I was told that enabling is also an addiction.  So basically, I’m dealing with two addicts, which explains Tina’s behavior.  Tina is the one who actually needs to attend Alanon.  I have not suggested she attend because she will flip out and resort to her passive aggressive behavior.

What do I do?  Maybe nothing.  Maybe there is no answer and I just have to ride this emotional tsunami out.

Not a good year.

Oldest son a drug, alcohol and gambling addict and wife will not agree to seek professional help for him or herself.

Car accident. 4 X 4 extended cab truck ran a red light and t-boned me going 50 mph in rain.  I was driving a Volvo and thankfully nobody else in car. Injured brain stem and taking seizure medication. Three to six months to heal.

What next?

Feeling lonely, helpless and frustrated but still hanging on and working hard to stay focused on the good things in my life.

 

 

 

 




TopDog
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Separate Accounts

You need separate accounts for the finances.  Maybe you handle the finances. Or, at least you have the account that pays the bills and savings.  Need to have separate accounts, maybe even separate banks, Checking here, savings over there. When you have multiple banks within a city, and there within walking distance, much better. Or a couple local banks, and an internet bank.  Separate accounts. Keep using that word, Separate.  All can be joint, but what matters is whose controlling them.   Consider enrolling in a ride along program with your local police department.  Alanon maybe a waste of your time.  Sorry about the accident.  Hopefully, your world will get better. Why don't you go to Disneyland this summer.  Go alone if you have to.  You will  have fun.



Peer200x
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sorry my brother!

Hey, sorry, you are going through such an ordeal.  I thought I was kinda in the think of it, until i read your post.  our feet.  Coinsidently, last week I had a solo session with him and asked him if he could tell when someone is having an affair.  He told me he or she generally will refuse counseling.  All I could think about was "been there done that..."  There was a time when my wife simply refused and was very distant.  We were basically, co-habitating.

I am sorry, objectively speaking, I think it would be best to move out and mandate you kids to take regular alcohol and drug tests while living under your roof.  I know it's so easy to sit here and give advice, and I can tell you I have been through a storm or two; i did not do what I recommended you do.  I suppose it's like the adage which says: "Hindsight is 20-20." I too have had some crazy marrital problems.  My wife and I finally found a great Christian Counselor who really helped up get back on

Good luck,

God Bless,

Christopher



Hogan
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Thanks for suggestions

Separate accounts has been suggested to me.  (Once at an Alanon meeting).

I have no money to put in a separate account.  And I don't want to cause any more turmoil by taking money from an existing account and opening a separate one. My wife would go bonkers if I did.  She also made it clear one day that the money she is giving to Grant is her money. Ouch!

Alanon was a waste of time for me.  But at least I tried.

Other drastic measures have been suggested to me but I'm not comfortable pulling the trigger because I need to be around for our youngest, 17.   I don't want him getting caught up in the middle of this unfortunate situation.  Fortunately, he is one of the positive things going on in my life.

I posted the story about our oldest son, Grant, (Losing teenager to drugs post) so you guys may not have had the benefit of prior info about him.  Grant is 22 and does not live at home.  Thank goodness.  He lives part-time with my mother-in-law, another enabler, and his so called drug friends (also enablers).  He has no job, not going to school.  Not paying rent at grandmas or his friends house.  According to Grant he is also living rent free at his friend's house.  (Grant is good at manipulating people and finding enablers.) He is also not paying for food, car insurance, gas, repairs on car, dentist......because his mother is paying it all.

As far as rules in our house.  My wife has none.  I was never allowed to discipline our boys.  Example, one time I took the tv out of one of the boy's bedrooms.  Just for one day.  An hour later she put it back in our boy's bedroom which undermined me.

Grant is not the only one Tina enables.  She also does it to our youngest, Matt (17).  She types his english and religion homework.  And does most of the religion for him.  I suggested we get Matt a tutor so he can do his own work.  She rejected the idea. It feels as though Tina is in high school and getting the grades not Matt.

Meanwhile, I've sat idly by and watched all this unfold.  Been hard to take but as they say for better or worse.  This is definitely the worse part.

Here is a funny story about my wife enabling our dog.  Our golden retriever had minor ear surgery and has to wear a cone to protect the ear so it can heal properly. Tina without asking me or the vet cuts part of the cone because she feels sorry that the dog is uncomfortable.  She thinks she is helping the dog.  Well, guess what?  The dog starts rubbing her ear on the carpet and the grass in back yard.  Ear gets dirty and bandages get loose.  Hello, the CONE is there for a reason or else the vet wouldn't have put it on her!  I take the dog to the vet and tells me to not let Tina cut the cone again.  Her enabling cost us money for rebandaging, cleaning the wound and a new CONE!   Argghhhh!

Disneyland sounds like a good idea.  I live 20 minutes from it.

 



omahahomedad
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Not your money?!

I wonder what she would say if you were the breadwinner and told her she couldn't spend any of YOUR money on Grant.

Al Vice-President, Daddyshome, Inc. - The National At-Home Dad Network www.daddyshome.org



bobtimmjr
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Finances and Marriage Trouble

Let's just start off by getting a good counselor, of her choosing to help deal with the situation of her feeding your son's habits.  This will in turn help with your financial situation too if she's willing to help cure the problem instead of feeding it.  The next thing I would suggest is through one of your local churches is attending Financial Peace University.  The two combined will help in all aspects of your current situation(s) and any other situation in the future.  Everything boils down to this, you have to make it sound like her suggestion or idea for this to work.  My wife was famous for just paying what she thought was important to her and spending the rest on other stuff for herself and leaving us short-changed with grocery money.  I took over the checking account and put everything in writing to where every dollar is accounted for (by giving your money a name) before the beginning of the month and giving her a copy of it to help ensure that this plan works.  Don't know if I am lucky or what, but so far this has worked.



Hogan
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Wife Won't Go To Counseling

I begrudgingly let my wife choose and go to the counselor of her choice.  Her counselor told her what she didn't want to hear.  So she stopped going. Unfortunately, the counselor didn't help much.

Tina will not seek another counselor/opinion because she doesn't feel she is doing anything wrong.  According to her all is well in La La land.

Tina's mother has also contributed to the problem.  She is a control freak and having an influence on Tina's enabling and inappropriate behavior.  My mother-in-law has also been treating me like crap.  I was never on her good side to begin with for being an at-home dad.  This situation only brought out the dark side in her too. For example, I received no birthday or anniversary card from her this year.  And there are other mind games she's been playing on me.

Yeah, Al, my jaw dropped when I heard Tina say "It's my money."

I still love Tina.  I just don't like this dark side I'm seeing and having to live with.

It may be that I can't do anything but wait for Tina to also find herself in the gutter.

I'm worried for Tina because it's not a matter of if but when Grant and her house of cards falls apart.  A relative said that she is worried about Grant throwing Tina under the bus.

I'm dealing with three very irrational people. One of them, Grant, thinks he can outsmart the world without an education, no money, no job, a medical marijuana card and joint in his hand.  The other, Tina, is so emotionally whacked out that she has lost all reasoning, common sense and doesn't know right from wrong anymore.  The other, my mother-in-law, who has been playing judge and jury based on the information Grant and Tina have been feeding her.

Being able to vent in this forum and everyone's support has been very helpful for me.

All I can do is stay true to myself and not let Grant or Tina get into my head or let them suck me into their stupid mind games.

It hasn't been easy but I'm keeping my composure.

I hope I'll be able to laugh all this off someday.

 

 

 

 



TopDog
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Start A New Career Working with Disney

From what I understand about your current situation you have time to start a new career working in Anaheim at one of the theme parks.  This would allow you to start a new career and save some money towards your retirement.  Set up an account with Disney that you have access to.  No one else.  Then, let it all go.  Let those problems go, they will work themselves out. Just work lots of hours. Meet lots of new people. Focus on getting back to work, while having fun, enjoying what you do in your new career.  So, go to the Disney website, and start looking for a new career working for Disney.  One of the best companies to work for.



Hogan
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Good Suggestion on Disneyland

Already have a couple of plans worked out.  If they don't work, I will use your working for Disneyland suggestion as a back-up plan.

 



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