Little Children

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Wow! Thanks for listening to my suggestion!

I'd first like to recommend "Little Children" by Tom Perrota. It's a recent novel about two at-home parents who have an affair. I was turned on to it by the author's interview on NPR's Fresh Air. He talked about being an at-home Dad, and how he noticed that other at-home Moms who didn't fit the cookie cutter mold also seemed to feel divided on the playgrounds.

I've only read a little bit so far, but I really like what I've read. The idea of the book, that gender is not the only factor to at-home parent isolation, also inspired me to start a web site called altparenting.com. It's for parents who aren't in the mainstream, who feel different or out of place on their suburban neighbourhood playgrounds. Maybe you're young or liberal or alternative or whatever that sets you apart (like being a young liberal indie-dad like myself). This is just a site that will offer a resource to those unique types of parents. It's not up yet though, so look for it in the future.




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Little Children

I recently finished the book. I haven't seen the movie.

Certainly, the literary aspects and entertainment value of the book are quite good.

However, I'm somewhat concerned about the at-home dad PR aspect - among other issues, there are those who will see the movie (or read the book) and conclude that at home dads spend their days fooling around with Kate Winslet. (Uhhh, yeah).

For what it's worth, the at-home dad character is also an "unemployed" (bar exam flunkie) guy who hangs out at the local skate park. On the other hand, he's portrayed as a competent parent. And, the at-home status is somewhat incidental, rather than a central "Mr Mom"-like focus of the plot.

The concept of isolation is also a major theme and, being something that's not often talked about, is interesting to see in the book. Although, again, I have some concerns about how the real-life playground crowd will process the way in which the isolation is handled.

So, some good and some bad as it relates to at-home parent life. Definitely worth a read though.

My take: if you thought you got weird looks at the playground before, just wait until this movie is out and starts winning awards. There will be more unusual looks and, to be clear, I'm not talking about the Kate Winslet kind.



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It was all the talk

It was all the talk at the playgroup we go to, the ladies we all buzzing about the movie.
As I am the only guy that attends this playgroup, I figured I needed to get the elephant out of the room so I looked at the group and said, "I'm just here to get laid."
Everyone laughed and conversation moved on.



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Bolas Grandes

Man, if I said that I would be hung out to dry. There are some moms who would have gotten a kick out of it but then there are some in my neighborhood who would have taken out a full Frontal Assault on me, and I don’t mean in a good way! Cheers...



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altparenting.com

Looking forward to seeing the website you're working on...



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Thanks. It might be a

Thanks. It might be a while, though. In the last month, I've just added a new kid, a new PM job, and I've being hired to direct a children's play. I've almost lost all motivation for everything else.

Plus, I've lately become totally obsessed with the idea of launching a skeptic parenting web site that will attempt to debunk some of the hype directed at new parents- educational toys, parenting books, and all the other crap with pseudo-scientific untested claims that are sent our way.

I think my real problem is focus. :)



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Penn and Teller

Have you seen the P&T show on Cinemax called BS? They had an episode on Baby BS, and I thought it was done really well, even though all of their issues it is not like they are trying to show both sides of the story (you can ALWAYS tell what side they come down on) they dealt with all of the kid stuff with the caveat "these people are just trying to be the best parent to their kids", but it is the first season of BS and I know that they have it at Blockbuster Online, check it out.



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I have seen that, but I had

I have seen that, but I had forgotten about it. I should re-watch it for ideas. Thanks for the reminder.

And I'll just add that I completely agree that B.S. is really funny and provides good skeptical arguments to a lot of bunk. The only episode I didn't like was the one on second hand smoking because it seemed like they were wrong. But I can't tell if my own feelings about the subject were interfering with my reaction to the episode.



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Penn & Teller

Yeah their show is very biased but I enjoy watching it. I think they were wrong with the recycling one, went WAY overboard about some things while ignoring others (as they usually do). I don't remember the Baby BS one, that was on the first season?

I'm Not a Slacker



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Those Crazy Magicians!!

Yeah, I am sure that it is first season, and I think it is packaged together with the one on second hand smoke but I am not positive about that. I have been a fan of Penn and Teller since I was in high school, and I think that there success it terrific but boy when they have an axe to grind, STAND BACK!!



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Little Children - comments

So back to the original topic of this thread... the book and movie "Little Children". I finally got around to watching this movie, and as a movie, I have to give it 4 stars. If you liked "American Beauty" or "In the Bedroom" (by the same director) you'll enjoy this movie.

In terms of the at-home-dad aspect, I perhaps saw some nuances in the performance that a regular critic might not have appreciated. Like said above, the loneliness / isolation, but also the themes of not having a career as an anchor, and the external pressure to achieve (in the case of this movie's character, to pass the bar exam). In the Kate Winslet character, there's the idea of a loss of individual identity in being a parent. Lots of complex themes played out in this movie.

Finally, I don't think I'll ever look at doing the laundry in quite the same way again!



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